El,..bukannya kita masih butuh tempat jualan itu semua?
ya jual senjata, jual film, jual mobil, jual minyak, dkk.
bukankah tempat jualannya di eropa ama us?


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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Elaine Sui 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 11:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


  That's right!

  Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any product, 
from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot create cheap 
labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and technology students in 
the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field, tin and coal mines. Japan 
has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea has the best drama TV 
series.. 

  Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to us.

  I have an interesting article, please read it.
  
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/25/asean-ink-investment-pacts-with-china-korea.html

  Elaine


  On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei <highwaysta...@gmail.com> wrote:

    So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread to 
US & Europe... 



    On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano <yuta.tizi...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

      If I can summarize:

      1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end 
of this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet
      2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region, particulary 
those countries who export commodities to China, including Indonesia
      3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China 
economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources as 
SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and traffic 
viewpoint 
      4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive influences 
from Asia

      That's how the recovery will work, right?

      Rgds,
      Yuta 


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      From: Elaine Sui 
      Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700
      To: <obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com>
      Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY




      "In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force, and 
then you could control that country. Today it's not necessary at all. You can 
destabilize a country, make it poor, and then make it request help. And [in 
exchange] for the help that is given, you gain control over the policies of the 
country, and when you gain control over the policies of a country, effectively 
you have colonized that country." - DR. MAHATHIR BIN MOHAMMAD (July 2nd, 2001)

      I quote him coz this is what happens to the US. No country can beat the 
US with military forces, not even China or Russia. Today, effectively the US 
future is in the hand of China (it's the largest creditor, exceeding Japan, 
with more than $700 bil of T-Bonds.)

      Elaine



      On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:47 PM, jsx_consultant 
<jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id> wrote:

        Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


        Tapi kalo kita perhatikan pola wave IHSG dan DJI berbeda:

        http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&s=%5EJKSE&l=off&z=l&q=l&c=&c=%5EDJI

        - IHSG bentuk last wavenya: UPTREND (Higher Low + Higher High)
        - DJI bentuk last wavenya: masih DOWNTREND (Lower High + Lower Low)

        El, What do you think ?.

        Will Indonesia, China and India market have different market
        rally compared to US market ? Will the world's indexes decouple ?.









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