Like i say before I have no reason except that i am disappointed with the leader. I do not even know him. That my mistake. I am sorry for that.
I add that margin call all bullshit because i am just upset at that moment. I realise now that i make mistake and do not think properly at that time. So there is no reason to follow this up. Like i say i am sorry. Everyone have the right to be upset. maybe mine is just too much. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Ruz7" <indeksbei3...@...> wrote: > > The article is not yours, but this statement is : > Even leader / representative of Minority shareholder bisa di beli... ;( > > > Takut kali kalau masalah ini berlanjut saham dia nanti kena margin > > > call... jadi boke... dan mendingan jg terima duit dulu dari orang > > > tertentu.... > > May I Know the reason behind that statement ? > > Btw: Tanda Alam, Milis Dibikin Rame. RUPS sebentar lagi. :) > Be There, Be Behind or Left Behind > Powered By FREN BondBerry. (Bayar Pake Daun). > Indeksbei3000® > > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Vaulstrad" <vaulst...@...> > > Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:16:23 > To: <obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [ob] Bumi Investors Say: âNo Probe? No Problemâ - APA GUE > BILANG! INDO UDAH RUSAK! INVESTOR LUAR LARI SEMUA > > > I guess it is about how you stand. > > first for that article, i am not the writer. > > Of course i know that if we keep talking this issue never resolve and BUMI > still at the lowest level. But it is not about the share price. This is how > you should stand. Even Mappi can extend time to talk to BUMI for the outcome. > If BUMI agree that it is publish. If not let adjust it to everyone favour. > > This is call independent. > > I believe that he should stand for us. that what the leader of minority > shareholder right? maybe he forget. He is just worries if this thing take > longer time BUMI share price will be at rock bottom. > > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Aria Santoso <ariasantoso@> wrote: > > > > Dear PH, > > I suppose that u need to learn about the difference of law & ethics. > > > > Should u do fart in front of us, it would be unfavorable to many of us; > > however we couldn't sue you for that. It's not a law-breaking thing so > > we can't take any legal action. > > In fact we are not happy for that action and the bad smell left for us. > > It's about ethics in social relationship. > > > > Below allegation in public is managed under law. Please be so kind to > > ensure that you will settle it. > > > > Cordially, > > Ace > > > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: [ob] Bumi Investors Say: âNo Probe? No Problemâ - APA GUE > > BILANG! INDO UDAH RUSAK! INVESTOR LUAR LARI SEMUA > > Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:04:02 -0700 (PDT) > > From: PH⢠<vaulstrad@> > > Reply-To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > PH⢠wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Even leader / representative of Minority shareholder bisa di beli... ;( > > > Takut kali kalau masalah ini berlanjut saham dia nanti kena margin > > > call... jadi boke... dan mendingan jg terima duit dulu dari orang > > > tertentu.... > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > Bumi Investors Say: âNo Probe? No Problemâ > > > > > > In 2007, Indonesia was ranked worst out of 11 regional markets in the > > > Asian Corporate Governance Association survey, and, judging by the > > > market regulatorâs apparent whitewash of the PT Bumi Resources probe, > > > nothing much has changed. > > > > > > However, despite the potential damage to the credibility of the bourse > > > and the regulator â" not to mention the interests of small investors â" > > > it now appears that itâs a case of âout of sight, out of mind,â > > > with > > > analysts and even Bumiâs minority shareholders suddenly saying they > > > are happy with the decision of the Capital Market and Financial > > > Institution Supervisory Agency (Bapepam-LK). > > > > > > In January, the agency launched a probe into the Bumiâs purchase of > > > three coal firms â" PT Darma Henwa, PT Fajar Bumi Sakti and PT Pendopo > > > Energi Batubara â" for a total of Rp 6.18 trillion ($593 million) after > > > an investor and media outcry over allegations that the acquisitions > > > were overpriced. > > > > > > It was also alleged that the acquisitions amounted to a material > > > transaction requiring the approval of Bumi shareholders â" which was > > > never given â" Âand that some of the coal firms were actually > > > affiliated with Bumiâs owners, the Bakrie group of companies, through > > > obscure cross-shareholding arrangements. > > > > > > However, after a seemingly interminable probe that included the > > > recruitment of an outside appraiser, the only fault Bapepam could come > > > up with was that the price paid for one of the targets, PT Fajar Bumi > > > Sakti, was Rp 370 billion too high. > > > > > > But even here Bumi was given an easy way out â" all it had to do was > > > renegotiate the price and bring it down to a âreasonableâ level, > > > which > > > it says it is now in the process of doing. > > > > > > The market watchdog also let Bumi off the hook on the material > > > transaction question, saying that since the transactions took place in > > > different fiscal years the issue of materiality did not arise â" a view > > > that many would consider excessively legalistic given that all of the > > > transactions took place within little more than one week. Dharma Henwa > > > was bought on Dec. 30, Pendopo Energi Batubara on Jan. 5 and Fajar > > > Bumi Sakti on Jan. 7. > > > > > > Capital market regulations designed to protect the interests of > > > minority shareholders require a company to seek shareholder approval > > > for a transaction if its value exceeds 10 percent of the companyâs > > > revenue or 20 percent of its market value. In this case, the combined > > > value of the transactions would have required such approval had they > > > not been completed in different years. > > > > > > On the affiliation issue, Bapepam has completely abandoned its > > > investigation without coming up with any findings, saying that the > > > question is now irrelevant. > > > > > > Indra Safitri, an independent capital market legal consultant, said > > > that Bapepam had based its actions on the findings of the independent > > > appraiser. > > > > > > âThe other issues become irrelevant if the prices paid are > > > reasonable,â he said, when asked whether the market watchdog was > > > justified in abandoning its affiliation probe. > > > > > > Meanwhile, a representative of Bumiâs minority shareholders, Rully > > > Oetomo, said: âWe welcome the fact that Bumiâs management is willing > > > to renegotiate and seek a better price for Fajar Bumi.â > > > > > > Rully said that since the transactions were found to have been > > > nonmaterial, Bumi would not now have to seek shareholder approval. A > > > meeting had been scheduled for this purpose this coming Friday. > > > > > > âWe will not push Bapepam to continue the investigation into the > > > affiliation issue if we are happy with the price,â Rully said. > > > > > > But despite the newfound acquiescence of the companyâs shareholders, > > > doubts nevertheless persist, not to mention concerns over the future > > > of corporate governance here as a whole, with one analyst having aptly > > > characterized the entire affair as ânothing more than a game.â > > > > > > > > > Jakarta Globe > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > + + > + + + + + > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. > + + + + + > + +Yahoo! Groups Links >
