Waaahhh ... ini sih bukan pendapat newbie .. hehehe Anda sudah sangat berpengalaman Senior Henry Liem .. :) :) :)
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Henry Liem <hsantos...@gmail.com> wrote: > kl newbie boleh brpendapat, pimpco's (see cnbc.com news for detail) & > knott's(bloomberg.com), both r looking for even more cheaper price as > they mis-calculated how fast d economic can recover. To estimate S&P's > will go down to 400 is out of d question. > > I agree with 'The V shape' is signalling too fast n too optimistic > recovery, i prefer 'U shape' or maybe sin x/cos x(tan x) shape :p > > D economic wont b going to slump n reach its 2nd lowest as many will > b @ stakes, including china's big money investment on d US's , not > including all d US Gov's economic stimulus. > > Keep in mind that US banks & major investment funds that have been > helped, r already starting to pay back gov's & industries output r > already start increase instead of having slower decrease, that's a > basic economic recovery signal. > > So just keep on BOW, we'll reach at least @ 2700-2900 at end of 2009. > > On 8/14/09, D0N Qicot <o5ana_indone...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > tenang.... > > Hari senin DOW +100.... > > > > > > Koalisi El + Arto belum cukup yach....? > > > > > > --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Henry Liem <hsantos...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > From: Henry Liem <hsantos...@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [ob] ::DOW -100 nihh:: U.S. Stocks Fall on Concern Rally > > Outpaced Recovery Prospects > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > > Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:01 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ini juga yg ane tunggu2 nich...yuuuk siapkan peluru, > > missile, roket, peluru kendali untuk BOW !! > > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Thomas Frederick <thomaszone_2000@ > > yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Nahhh ini dia berita yg ditunggu2 yang ga punya barang.... > > > > > > > > Untuk yg punya barang.... Syereeeemmmmmm > > > > > > > > Untung hari senin libur ya.... > > > > > > > > Coba buka tebak sendiri dehh.... > > > > > > > > Aug. 14 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks fell for the first time in three days > on > > concern that the rally in the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index to a 10-month > high > > has outpaced the prospects for the economy’s recovery. > > > > > > > > Boeing Co., the world’s second largest commercial airplane manufacturer, > > led declines in the Dow Jones Industrial Average after saying it found > flaws > > in 23 of its 787 Dreamliners. Alcoa Inc., 3M Co. and Travelers Cos. also > > slumped as commodity, financial and industrial shares posted the biggest > > declines. > > > > > > > > > > “A lot of people think the market has come up more than enough and it > needs > > to rest,” said Charles Knott, chief investment officer at Knott Capital > > Management in Exton, Pennsylvania, who oversees about $550 million. > “We’ve > > got a pretty sobering outlook and are concerned about the economy on a > > long-term basis. We think there’s neither the will power nor the means to > > fully finance that type of V shape recovery.” > > > > > > > > > > The Standard & Poor’s 500 Index slipped 0.4 percent to 1,008.84 at 9:41 > > a.m. in New York. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 39.98 points, or > 0.4 > > percent, to 9,358. European and Asian shares advanced. > > > > > > > > U.S. stocks are “dramatically overpriced” because the fallout from the > > financial crisis will continue to hurt consumer spending, said David > Tice, > > Federated Investors Inc.’s chief portfolio strategist for bear markets. > > Tice, who predicts that the S&P 500 will eventually slump to 400, said he > > would add to short positions if the market goes much higher. > > > > > > > > > > ‘Need to Be Realistic’ > > > > > > > > “I’d love for prosperity to return, unfortunately I think you need to be > > realistic and it takes time to work off these excesses” from a bubble in > > credit markets, Tice said in an interview with Bloomberg Television. > > > > > > > > Equities declined even after industrial production in the U.S. rose for > the > > first time in nine months after mid-year retooling at automakers and as a > > federal “cash-for-clunkers” program fueled demand for cars. The 0.5 > percent > > increase in output at manufacturers, mines and utilities was more than > > forecast, Federal Reserve figures showed. > > > > > > > > > > Stocks gained yesterday after investor John Paulson’s hedge fund bought > > stakes in banks, helping offset an unexpected slump in retail sales. The > S&P > > 500 is little changed on the week after climbing for the last four. > > > > > > > > > > A 50 percent rebound from a 12-year low on March 9 left the S&P 500 > trading > > at 18.6 times the profits of its companies on Aug. 7, the highest > valuation > > since 2004, according to weekly Bloomberg data. > > > > > > > > Earnings Season > > > > > > > > Per-share earnings topped analysts’ estimates by 10 percent on average > for > > the companies in the S&P 500 that have released results since June 17, > > according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Profits slumped about 30 percent > in > > the period, a record eighth straight quarter of falling earnings. > > > > > > > > > > Instead of a so-called New Normal of subdued growth, the U.S. may be > > heading for a robust recovery. The worst recession since the 1930s has > > created a reservoir of demand that will buoy the economy, say a growing > > number of economists led by James Glassman at JPMorgan Chase & Co., > former > > Fed Governor Laurence Meyer and Stephen Stanley at RBS Securities Inc. > > > > > > > > > > Boeing said it stopped work more than a month ago on two sections for > the > > 787 Dreamliner after flaws were found on 23 airplanes. The 787 was almost > > two years behind its initial May 2008 first-delivery target before the > > latest delay. 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