Iya pak....  saya setuju kalau pabrik pengolahan timah di asia bakal 
pada bangkrut karena kekurangan supply dari penambang ilegal di 
Bangka. Hal ini akan mendorong makin mahalnya TIN bukan TINS. 
Masalahnya manajemen TINS dan juga pemerintah(majority shareholder) 
kurang tanggap terhadap peluang yang sudah ada di depan mata.......


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Jonni Amin, CFA, FRM" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> 
> Saya baru join. Nama saya Jonni Amin. Saya ada beberapa point 
tentang tin yang saya himpun dari data internet. Salam perkenalan.
> 
> Why the tin price will go up and not down? Please see my Note in 
the bottom:
> 
> 1.    Singapore Tin Industries Pte. Ltd., a JV between Yunnan Tin 
Co and KJP 
> International, has a capacity to produce 36,000 tons of purified 
tin per 
> year at full capacity, or about a 10th of the world's total demand 
for such 
> tin, which would propel Singapore to become one of its top 10 
producers. The 
> plant started its operation since March 2006. The group's 
Singapore Tin 
> Industries joint-venture reported a loss of $287,000 in the 1st 
quarter of 
> 2007, due to a shortage of raw material feed. The Singapore 
plant's refined 
> tin production dropped to only 426 tonnes in the three months. YTC 
owns 42% 
> of STI.
> NOTE: I suspect 100% of the feed stock is from Indonesia. If the 
production 
> last year was assumed 60%, the market will be shortage of about 
20,000 MT 
> from STI as it can no longer get the feed stock from Indonesia.
> 
> 2.    20 Apr 2007 - Yunnan Tin Company has reported a six-fold 
increase in 
> net profit in the first quarter of 2007 and forecasts a more than 
seven-fold 
> rise in profit in the first half of the year.
> January-March net profit was 126 million yuan (US$16 million), 
while 
> turnover doubled to 1.66 billion yuan ($215 million). Export 
prices 
> increased by 60% while domestic prices rose 23% in the period, the 
company 
> said. Refined tin sales in the period rose 65% to 9,224 tonnes.
> Note: I assume PT Timah profit will jump minimum six to sevenfold. 
I noticed 
> the Yunan Tin Co, the world largest producer, sold only 9,224 MT 
for 1st 
> quarter 2007, meaning that the annualised sales(MT) will be less 
than PT 
> Timah -- perhaps the bank of tin export from Indonesia has started 
to take 
> effect as now it has limited feed stock from Indonesia.
> 
> 3.    Tin major MSC sees lower output in 2007 on limited feed 
stock. The 
> Butterworth plant has a designed capacity of 50,000 mt/year and 
has 
> producing between 30,000-40,000 mt/year on
> the lack of feed stock, namely tin concentrate. Kobatin can now 
produce only 
> 500 mt/month, far from previous year's output of 20,000 
mt/year.      The 
> official said its Butterworth plant in Malaysia was expected to 
see lower 
> output in 2007 as its feed stock from Indonesia had been affected 
since the 
> ban on tin export by the Indonesian government in late 2006. The 
company 
> buys from some of the affected private Indonesian smelters on 
Bangka. On 
> October 4, 2006, 23 private smelters on Bangka were raided and 
closed down 
> by the police as they did not have to proper licenses to operate
> Note: With the combined capacity of 70,000 MT (MSC + Kobatin), I 
assumed 
> about 80% of the feed stock was from illegal miners in Indonesia, 
meaning 
> the market will be shortage of tin of about 56,000 MT
> 
> 4.    The ban on tin export will also affect the feed stock for 
other 
> companies in Thailand and China
> Note: I do not know how much MT will be lost from the market due 
to limited 
> feed stock for smelters in Thailand and China.
> 
> 5.    Bolivia to Auction Tin From Seized Glencore Smelter. The 
Vinto auction 
> will take place on April 23, according to an invitation issued to 
the sale 
> issued by La Empresa Metalurgica Vinto, the company operating the 
smelter. 
> Alvarez couldn't confirm the quantity of tin to be sold. Vinto 
produced 
> 11,804 tons last year, or an average of 984 tons a month.
> Note: The nationalisation of the tin smelter and the limited 
> producers/smelters in the world will push the tin price higher
> 
> 6.    The world consumption of about 300,000 MT is going to 
increase by 6 - 
> 10% every year.
> 
> 7.  The cost of production for tin and nickel is more or less at 
about US$8,000.  Nickel price has gone up to US$ 50,000 (more than 
six-fold of the cost) whereas tin price has gone up only less than 2 
time -- still have a lot potential to grow.
> 
> 8.  So far, only a few companies in the world produce tin; hence, 
the supply will not increase within this two years.
> 
> 
> SUMMARY
> 
> Min 60,000 - 90,000 MT of tin will be shortage in the market 
because of the 
> ban of the tin export from the illegal miners in Indonesia. The 
shortage 
> will be felt within next month when the stocks in the overseas 
market was 
> down.
>


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