________________________________ From: ewing gareng <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, October 18, 2009 10:44:14 PM Subject: Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING. ________________________________ saya rasa belum terjadi dalam kurun waktu dekat ini ...mungkin abad yg akan datang mengingat sejarah supremasi suatu bangsa/kerajaan besar yang lalu lalu rata2 diatas 300 thn mengalami masa keemasannya sedangkan Uncle Sam baru mulai setelah perang dunia ke 2....... yang perlu diperhatikan adalah: 1. issue usd vs yuan isu ini sudah dihembuskan sebelum kejadian krisis keuangan global. 2. Country Reserve negara2 besar (USD and other currency) 3. interest rate 4. commodity price (oil, gold...last year oil, maybe next GOLD) kalau tidak salah imf menjual cadangan gold waktu harga emas 950/ troy stl itu harga ke 880 /troy (2008) 5. currency exchange. (USD vs other currency (except GBP ) GBP mungkin "penyeimbang" penurunan USD vs other currency mengingat inggris negara yg hampir selalu sejalan dengan Uncle Sam policy dan inggris merupakan satu2 nya negara kuat yg tidak tergabung dengan EUR 6. big issue di amrik ketika penjualan saham citibank ke orang timur tengah (sebelum terjadi krisis keuangan) waktu itu harga citibank jauh dibandingkan harga sekarang Bagi saya ini semua merupakan proses menuju keseimbangan baru thd harga commodity, currency dan perekonomian global GOLD ====> 1200 DJI =======> 12000 IHSG======> 3200 NB : mohon diberi kritik dan masukan dari sesepuh OB It's Elaine! wrote: > > I didn't say this will happen, but it's possible. > >http://online. wsj.com/article/ SB12305110070963 8419.html > >>I'm not going to scare anyone or anything, just read it and share your >thinking. Historically speaking, empires like Roman and Arab, even Han >of China and Majaphait, that once the biggest and greatest, did fell >eventually. The bigger they are, the harder they fall. > >>As like a wise man has said 'History repeats itself'.. > >Elaine > > >On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 1:06 PM, It's >Elaine! <elainesui83@ gmail.com> >wrote: > >Start >>learning mandarin now.. >> >> >> >>On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 1:01 PM, anrusing >>data <anru.s...@gmail. com> >>wrote: >> >> >>> >>>>>>so, what is your best suggestion then? >>> >>> >>>2009/10/18 It's Elaine! <elainesui83@ gmail.com> >>> >>> >>> >>>>that's unoffcial, but it's true that fort knox hasn't >>>>been audited for like 50 years so it could be true. And if turns to be >>>>true, then it's worse than we thought... :((( >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 8:06 AM, >>>>Contrarian Investor <indonesianprivatein vest...@yahoo. co.id> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I beg to differ miss sui,, >>>>>>>>>>while I agree to which the Fed wouldn't too enthusiastic in rasing >>>>>interest rates like the OZ CB did.. >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I sincerely hard to accept the US is the largest above ground gold >>>>>owners any longer now.. Those statistics the WGC produces, it's not >>>>>entirely factual.. >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I presume the BRIC boys especially India and China are now the largest >>>>>above ground gold in the world.. The US probably don't own much gold no >>>>>more now.. >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Most of the Gold hedgefunders I met, shares the same thinking too >>>>>lately... >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>--- Pada Jum, 16/10/09, It's Elaine! <elainesui83@ gmail.com> menulis: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Dari: It's Elaine! <elainesui83@ gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>Judul: Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING. >>>>>>>>>>>>Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com >>>>>>>>>>>>Tanggal: Jumat, 16 Oktober, 2009, 10:14 PM >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Well I dunno, if fed raise int rate then usd >>>>>>may rebound, but I dunno. Why would the Fed endorse strong dollar >>>>>>policy if it only benefits China? If I have huge debt, I want the >>>>>>underlying currency to be as low as it can be (and my reserve as high >>>>>>as possible aka gold) >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>US holds the most gold in the world. >>>>>> >>>>>>Weak dollar will make US exports goods and >>>>>>services cheap, more competitive and attractive than to its Asian >>>>>>counterparts' . Like I said, even though prices (in USD) may skyrocket, >>>>>>it's actually a deflation, because of its rapid losses in value. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>You may see, in 1-2 years, there will be a lot of foreigners >>>>>>>>>>>>walking in >>>>>>your backyard, looking (stealing) your job. Indonesia will import a lot >>>>>>more of goods, from raw sugar to prostitutes, because of its strong >>>>>>currency. Again, only IF the fed doesn't raise int rate. >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>Elaine >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 4:05 >>>>>>PM, edwin lumanto <edwin_lumanto@ yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>Freak !!! >>>>>>>USD/JPY bellow 80 is one big hell gate to >>>>>>>chaos. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>u re taunting right ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ________________________________ From: >>>>>>>It's Elaine! <elainesui83@ gmail.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com >>>>>>>Sent: >>>>>>>Friday, October 16, 2009 9:20:32 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Subject: >>>>>>>Re: [ob] Re: NO INVESTING. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well I don't ask you to dump it, I >>>>>>>was just saying that USD is weakening, perhaps until USDJPY 50. Would >>>>>>>you hold USD? I'm definitely not. Cheap dollar is a pain for china as >>>>>>>they have the biggest USD reserve in the world. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>But no worry lah, I know you only think about >>>>>>>BUMI. hee hee >>>>>>> >>>>>>>________________________________ New Email names for you! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and >>>>>>>@rocketmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hurry before someone else does! >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>________________________________ Akses email lebih cepat. >>>>>>>>>>Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 >>>>>baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis) >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> > >
