Menurut terawangan ane, si Conrad ini jago ngomong, bahasa halus dan mengena. Tp jika dilihat lebih dalem lagi, keliatannya dia merasa udah pintar (sah-sah saja) dan ingin sharing (dgn buka class, ok2 aja) dan keliatannya nga butuh uang cuma sekedar hobi (itupun atas permintaan orang katanya). kalo menurut ane just one word : bullshit!
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, highwaysta...@... wrote: > > Hahaha...mengena banget ya? :p > > Sent from my computer of course! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Saptono Widhi <saptono.wi...@...> > Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 10:08:37 > To: <obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [ob] Fw: 2-Day TECHNICAL ANALYSIS Masterclass by Conrad > > Hmm,...ini menjawab kenapa dia memasang tarif workshop-nya lebih > 'realistis', in positive way : > > "TA is something that works when it works and fails when it doesn't work. > There is no way anyone can proof that TA is 100%. So what proof of concept > are you looking for?" > > Mr. Conrad ini menyadari *DAN* ingin *MEMBERI PENGERTIAN * bahwa memang > tidak ada yang ajaib di TA. > > Hal lain : > > * "Learning and sharing is about people coming together to contribute ideas > and talk about what they know and not about WHO IS BETTER OR RIGHT OR WRONG. > If your members feel that I need to proof something, then I'd rather not > join because I don't want to join a community that will compare and contest > what I do - I have had enough of such forums and on-line communities where > the ego comes first. It always ends up with in-fighting and fierce debates > with no real winner.*" > > > Nampaknya trend 'adu pinter' bukan cuma di milis OB, tapi di komunitas > trader luar juga sama, dan hasilnya tetap saja, no real winner :) > > Rgds > > > > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Dean Earwicker <dean.earwic...@...>wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply Conrad. Yes, we're aware that TA is not 100% fool > > proof. > > > > And yes, I think you misread our intention. We're not trying to take > > advantage of you (getting tips, freeloads, etc) or taking you into useless > > debates, etc, we have many good traders and trainers here, and many said > > (seen on your website) that you're good too so we think you'd like to share > > our group just for the sake of a healthy discussion, that's all. > > > > But seems you're not interested at all so perhaps other time. Anyway, > > thanks for the reply, we appreciate your time. :) > > > > -- > > DE > > > > 2010/2/12 Conrad Alvin Lim <conradalvin...@...> > > > >> Thank you for your invite. > >> > >> Allow me to clarify a few things ... > >> > >> "Proof of concept" - I have no idea what proof you require and why it is > >> necessary for me to proof anything. TA is something that works when it > >> works > >> and fails when it doesn't work. There is no way anyone can proof that TA is > >> 100%. So what proof of concept are you looking for? > >> > >> This was a follow up mail from your group members: *"cool, if he and his > >> system IS THAT GOOD. he should be initiated by all fellow TA Masters here." > >> * > >> * > >> * > >> *It would seem that your group of fellow TA Masters don't need my help or > >> proof because there seems to be little belief that I am "THAT GOOD". Plus I > >> don't have the need to be initiated into anything. I am a trader, I love to > >> trade and I happen to be good at it and I don't need to proof anything to > >> anyone. And I hate being called "Sifu", "Master", "Guru" ... so I have no > >> desire of joining or getting initiated into a group of TA Masters. I am > >> just > >> a simple trader who loves sharing and doesn't crave a fan-base.* > >> * > >> * > >> *I teach only because I love to teach and meet people. I am not > >> interested in growing my classes beyond what it is now. I am not in the > >> business of signing up hundreds of students who dream of making it big. I > >> only want students who want to work hard, learn properly and learn the > >> right > >> things. PROOF of that is the number of classes I hold in Indo every year - > >> 3 > >> only with less than 20 paying students per class and I charge them less > >> than > >> half of what Singaporeans pay. And I never tell my students that they can > >> become rich through trading or that you can get financial freedom. In fact, > >> I always warn them about the dangers and that they will lose money. Take a > >> look at my ad again - I don't say anything about making money. Even the > >> testimonials don't say that.* > >> * > >> * > >> *If you want a 2 or 3 day workshop, you and your members can always > >> attend the 2 Day TA Masterclass. I do this workshop once a year because > >> some > >> people have asked for it. It also serves as the next level up for my > >> students. * > >> * > >> * > >> *I hope that you don't mind that I copied this mail to my student-groups > >> so that they, if they wish to, can join your community. * > >> * > >> * > >> *Once again, thank you for the invite but I would like to join for the > >> right reasons and not because of the aforementioned purposes. Learning and > >> sharing is about people coming together to contribute ideas and talk about > >> what they know and not about who is better or right or wrong. If your > >> members feel that I need to proof something, then I'd rather not join > >> because I don't want to join a community that will compare and contest what > >> I do - I have had enough of such forums and on-line communities where the > >> ego comes first. It always ends up with in-fighting and fierce debates with > >> no real winner. I also don't want to join a community where most of the > >> members are there only to free-load and get tips. * > >> * > >> * > >> *I would rather use that time for more constructive things.* > >> * > >> * > >> *If I have mis-read your mail's intentions, I apologize. But I thought it > >> necessary for you and your group to know who I am and where I am coming > >> from > >> before everyone gets the wrong idea.* > >> * > >> * > >> *Sincerely, > >> * > >> Conrad Alvin Lim > >> Trader, Trainer & Author > >> AK Education Group > >> > >> Blog: www.conradalvinlim.com > >> Site: www.patterntradertools.com > >> Forum: www.wealthacademyinvestor.com/forum > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> *From:* Dean Earwicker <dean.earwic...@...> > >> *To:* pattern.tra...@... > >> *Cc:* surya.h...@...; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; > >> indone...@... > >> *Sent:* Thursday, 11 February 2010 8:17:25 > >> *Subject:* Re: [ob] Fw: 2-Day TECHNICAL ANALYSIS Masterclass by Conrad > >> > >> Hi Conrad, > >> > >> Glad you're finally here again! I see your ad below about TA workshop. > >> Looks interesting, so would you like to join our mailing list ( > >> obrolan-bandar-subscr...@yahoogroups.com), and show us some > >> "demonstration" of your skill, perhaps for 2-3 day as "proof of concept", > >> we > >> believe if you're willing to join our mailing list, your fan-base will grow > >> larger. > >> > >> Fyi, Obrolan Bandar is an Indonesian Mailing List that focuses on stock > >> trading and investing, currently consists of more than 8000 people already, > >> from newbies, market maker (bandar) and institutional clients. > >> > >> We know that you're a very busy person but if you accept our invitation, > >> it'd be great for your marketing exposure, right? :) > >> > >> Waiting for your kind reply. > >> > >> Thank you, > >> DE > >> > >> Note: if in any way Conrad doesn't recv this email, please kindly forward > >> to him. Thanks. > >> > >> > >> 2010/2/12 Dewi Harsono <dd1...@...> > >> > >>> fyi > >>> Thanks > >>> > >>> ----- Forwarded Message ---- > >>> *From:* Surya Hadi <surya.h...@...> > >>> *To:* dd1...@... > >>> *Sent:* Wed, February 10, 2010 3:44:02 PM > >>> *Subject:* 2-Day TECHNICAL ANALYSIS Masterclass by Conrad > >>> > >>> *Dear Fellow Traders,* > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> SUPER-EARLY BIRD PRICE is now OPEN for TAMC!! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Repeating the success in June 2009, *2-day* *Technical Analysis Master > >>> Class (TAMC)* by *Conrad* is brought to you again in June 2010. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *Technical Analysis Master Class* > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Date : Saturday, 12 June 2010 Sunday, 13 June 2010 > >>> (9 am 5 pm) > >>> > >>> Venue : AKLTG Office Wisma BNI 46 lt2, Jakarta > >>> > >>> Speaker : Conrad Alvin Lim (Master Trainer for Pattern > >>> Trader Tutorial) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> SIGN-UP NOW for SUPER-EARLY BIRD PRICE (before 28 February 2010)!! > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Investment : Rp 1.300.000,- ( for AKLTG Graduates ) > >>> > >>> IDR 2.000.000,- ( for Non- Graduates ) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> For more information, visit Conrad's blog at > >>> http://www.conradalvinlim.com/?page_id=2050. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Please feel free to email me at surya.h...@... if you need further > >>> assistance. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Best Regards, > >>> > >>> *Surya Hadisaputra* > >>> > >>> *Business Development Manager* > >>> > >>> *Ph: (62) 817 111 380 *** > >>> > >>> * * > >>> > >>> ** > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> *PT. 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