ada lagi neh dari time, tanggal 7 juni, tau relevan atau nggak:

http://time-blog.com/middle_east/2007/07/
iran_countdown_it_is_increasin.html


July 7, 2007 5:21 
Iran Countdown: "It is increasingly dangerous."
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Below is the latest Bush policy on Iran: "It is increasingly 
dangerous".

Note that when Condi Rice is asked if Cheney agrees with her 
diplomatic approach to Iran's "threat," she doesn't give a straight 
answer. Why the coyness? We need to know more about precisely what 
Cheney is arguing and how the internal debate is unfolding. The word 
in the State Department, as neo-con ideologue and ex-diplomat John 
Bolton contended recently, is that Rice's influence is ascendant in 
the administration's foreign policy. Cheney is losing influence by 
the day, including with Bush. As I see it from here, the Veep 
nonetheless still manages to keep the military option on Bush's desk. 
As I blogged recently, the next 18 months are very important to 
watch. Don't assume that because Iraq hasn't gone so well, Bush won't 
dream of touching Iran.

Excerpts from Rices interview on CNBC Friday:
QUESTION: Out of all of the countries posing threats to America right 
now, including Russia, Iran, Korea, China, which do you feel is the 
most dangerous?
SECRETARY RICE: Well, I would say that -- Russia I don't consider 
even in that category. Let me be very clear, we have our differences 
with Russia and some of those differences produce conflict, but by no 
means is this the Soviet Union. We have far more areas of cooperation 
with Russia than we have areas of conflict.
But when I look at Russia, I think that there's a very good reason to 
have a good relationship with Russia and it's to deal, for instance, 
with one of the other countries on your list, Iran. This is a 
relationship that is, I think, increasingly difficult and a country 
that is increasingly dangerous. Its support of terrorism around the 
world in places like --supporting Hezbollah in Lebanon, supporting 
very radical elements of Hamas in the Gaza Strip in the Palestinian 
territories, what Iran is doing in the south of Iraq, where it is 
supporting and arming militias that are then threatening our force 
presence in Iraq.
If you look at Iran's pursuit of the technologies that would lead to 
a nuclear weapon despite Chapter 7, the most serious Security Council 
resolution you can have -- two Chapter 7 resolutions against Iran -- 
they continue to pursue these policies, not to mention the crackdown 
on their own population that has caught up some Iranian Americans, 
one woman who was just going home to visit her elderly mother. So 
this is a very dangerous state with very dangerous policies. And we 
need the help and support and intense efforts of the international 
community to deal with Iran.
QUESTION: Should the U.S. consider military retaliation?
SECRETARY RICE: Well, the President's never going to take his options 
off the table and frankly, no one should want the American President 
to take his options off the table. But the President's made clear 
that we believe that diplomatic solutions to the Iranian problem are 
very much possible. And if the international community acts with the 
kind of intensity and the kind of commitment that it can, we will 
solve the problem in Iran.
Right now -- something that would perhaps be of interest to your 
listeners, we are working on financial measures that really will say 
to the Iranians, "You cannot use the benefits of the international 
financial system and continue to pursue a nuclear weapon." And 
frankly, people are looking differently at investment risk in Iran. 
People are looking differently at reputational risk in Iran. When we 
know that there are Iranian banks, like Bank Sepah, that was actually 
named in a UN Security Council resolution, that are all tied up with 
terrorism and weapons of mass destruction, I think international 
financial institutions that depend a lot on reputation are not going 
to want to be even close to a country that is under a Chapter 7 
resolution. And so we have means at our disposal to change Iranian 
behavior.
QUESTION: Is there a divide within the Administration between your 
diplomatic efforts and Dick Cheney's?
SECRETARY RICE: The Administration, the President and his 
Administration, are completely supportive of what we're trying to do 
on Iran. Now, it's not an either/or. I myself believe very strongly 
in what the President did in January when we had put our carrier 
strike group into the Gulf to demonstrate that the United States will 
defend its allies and will defend its interests. It is extremely 
important that we aggressively go after Iranians and Iranian 
activities in Iraq when we see them engaging in activities that can 
threaten our forces.
So yes, there has to be an element to this that sends the Iranians a 
very strong message that there are coercive elements to our policy as 
well.

A day earlier, The Huffington Post ran an interview by Nathan Gardels 
with former U.S. Middle East envoy Dennis Ross, who favors a 
diplomatic approach but thinks we are headed toward military action. 
Bush's ability to act ceases in 18 months when a new American 
president is inaugurated; interestingly, Ross points out, 18 months 
may also be the deadline for making a successful strike (by the U.S. 
or Israel) on Iran's nuclear program, because Iran's Russian-upgraded 
air defense system will be completed in the next year and a half.
For Israel, the "redline" is not so much when Iran has enough 
enrichment capacity for weapons-grade material. Their deadline is 18 
months from now when Iran's air defense system, which is being 
upgraded by the Russians, will be completed. That will make it much 
more difficult to successfully strike Iran's nuclear capacity from 
the air. The closer we get to that window without resolution of the 
Iranian nuclear problem, the more Israel will feel compelled to 
strike.
Clearly, at the moment, we are headed down the path of use of force. 
The slow-motion diplomacy of the West simply does not match the rapid 
development of Iran's nuclear capacity and the closing window when 
Iran's upgraded air defenses will be in place...

We are headed on a pathway now that will lead to the use of force. We 
don't want it to be that way. It doesn't have to be that way. There 
are alternatives, but the clock is ticking.

--By Scott MacLeod/Cairo


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, p4n k <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Waduh, jangan gitu donk....
> Kan kacian jg rakyat iran, entar seperti tetangganya
> irak lagi...banyak yang bom bunuh diri..
> Santai aja, kebutuhan energi pasti akan bertambah...
> So harga energi pasti bergerak positif...
> Just wait.....
> 
> --- Data Saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Bisnis Indonesia  hari Rabu kemarin
> > 
> > willzx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:             
> >                     Ini berita dari mana? gua cari2
> > di site ngga dapet. reference nya 
> >  donk, dapet berita dari mana???
> >  
> >  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andi Wahyudi
> > 
> >  <andi_wahyudi2000@> wrote:
> >  >
> >  > Rabu, 04/07/2007 14:19 WIB
> >  >  Powel: Presiden Bush dipastikan serang Iran oleh
> > : Djony Edward
> >  >       WASHINGTON (Persbiro): Presiden Amerika
> > Serikat (AS) George 
> >  Walker Bush dipastikan akan menyerang Iran,
> > sebagaimana diungkap dua 
> >  mantan pejabat Gedung Putih yang dikutip Majalah
> > Time pekan ini. 
> >  >  
> >  >  Seperti diketahui, tim pemerintahan Bush
> > menyatakan dengan tegas 
> >  tidak memiliki cara lain untuk menyetujui program
> > nuklir Iran. Dalam 
> >  wawancara yang dilakukan Larry King di CNN, mantan
> > Menteri Luar 
> >  Negeri AS, Collin Powel memberikan sinyal
> > kemungkinan itu. 
> >  >  
> >  >  Ia mengambil contoh dari langkah Cheney sebelum
> > AS melakukan 
> >  invasi ke Irak. Saat itu, Powel masih menjabat dan
> > ia diutus 
> >  menyelesaikan masalah Irak dan Saddam Husein di
> > PBB. Menurutnya, 
> >  Cheney memegang peranan penting dalam mempengaruhi
> > Bush untuk 
> >  mendeklarasikan perang. 
> >  >  
> >  >  Ketika Cheney menekan Bush untuk perang, Powel
> > meminta Bush agar 
> >  membawa masalah itu ke PBB. Dalam interview yang
> > dilakukan oleh John 
> >  Bolton di Jerussalem Post, mantan Duta Besar AS
> > untuk PBB, menegaskan 
> >  hal itu. 
> >  >  
> >  >  Bolton yang ditugas untuk menangani masalah
> > nuklir Iran selama 
> >  enam tahun secara terbuka mengatakan militer adalah
> > opsi terbauk 
> >  dalam menyelesaikan masalah program nuklir Iran. 
> >  >  
> >  >  "Pendekatan yang selama ini dilakukan Eropa dan
> > AS gagal dan malah 
> >  berbahaya. Sepakat dengan mereka (Iran) akan
> > membuat mereka 
> >  menginginkan lebih banyak," jelasnya. 
> >  >  
> >  >  "Kami sudah mencobanya selama empat tahun dan
> > Eropa menawarkan 
> >  bantuan tapi hasilnya nihil. Sekarang, Iran makin
> > solid dan kini 
> >  memiliki kemampuan untuk melakukan pengayaan dan
> > meningkatkan 
> >  kemampuan senjatanya," katanya. 
> >  >  
> >  >  Katanya, cara diplomasi yang dilakukan Menlu AS,
> > Condeleezza Rice, 
> >  yang membuatnya mengundurkan diri dari jabatannya,
> > enam bulan lalu. 
> >  "Kita kehilangan kesempatan dengan cara diplomasi,"
> > kata mantan Wakil 
> >  Luar Negeri AS ini. 
> >  > 
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