Itu ANALyst recommend jual palingan dia mau nampung dan beli 
gede2an. Simpen dan tambah terus ANTAMnya. Lihat iklan di CNBC tuw :)


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "tuangede" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Juga, hati2 dengan provokator, kita harus tahu agenda mereka.  
jual 
> beli sesuai denagn target pribadi bukan target orang lain (karena 
> you will never know the real thing until its out.
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "tbumi" <tbumi@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "tuangede" <tuangede@> 
> > wrote:
> > > Mulai bimbang sekarang. Biar jual saja semua barangnya, nanti
> >   market siap membelinya juga.
> >   Optimis selalu dengan keputusan sendiri dan jangan dengar
> >   bisikan yang pesimis. Rugi nanti dan menyesal.
> > 
> > > Jangan percaya dengan report ANALYST :  Kata dasarnya 
> dari 'ANAL' 
> > > and you know what comes out from there...
> > > 
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "tbumi" <tbumi@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei <highwaystar91@> 
> wrote:
> > > > > Biasalah maling teriak maling dalam keadaan ini. Nanti 
> > > >   market yang membuktikan analisa siapa yg benar.
> > > >   Ada pihak yg ingin barang murah, tapi masih belum bisa
> > > >   dapat barang murah. Sehingga bikin news yg pesimis saja.
> > > >   Dalam investasi, pemodal harus selalu optimis. 
> > > >   Hanya doa yg optimis pasti dikabuli TUHAN.  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Pak Sulistyo, bukannya anda sdh memutuskan hal ini waktu 
> > > > beli? "dibeli, buat warisan anak2 kalo udah gede aja"...nah 
> kalo 
> > > sdh 
> > > > gitu, nggak usah pusing pak dgn rekomendasi dan berita ini 
itu 
> yg 
> > > > tujuan utamanya adalah hanya utk mendistorsi pikiran para 
> trader 
> > > > (seems to be working in your case as you doubted again your 
> > > > decision). Mesti sabar pak dalam hal investasi saham, ingat 
> > > postingan 
> > > > pak DE mengenai bagaimana cuan 100%...baru2 ini. Kalo saham 
> blue 
> > > chip 
> > > > apalagi pertambangan di hold minimum 3 thn akan memberikan 
> return 
> > > yg 
> > > > sangat bagus. Ingat saja, teruslah tambah posisi antm anda 
> > sedikit 
> > > > demi sedikit layaknya membangun bisnis atau fondasi yg kuat. 
> > > Ingat, 
> > > > ini bukan utk anda tapi utk ANAK2 anda jadi hitung2 nabung 
> buat 
> > > > mereka (jadi nantinya kita nggak usah keriting mikirin uang 
> > > edukasi 
> > > > buat mereka apalagi kalo mereka bilang, "Pa, teman2 semua ke 
> US 
> > > > lho...saya IKUT!". Nah, niscaya nantinya anda tinggal 
> bilang, "No 
> > > > problem!!!"
> > > > >    
> > > > >   So...sekali beli nggak usah ragu utk menyimpan antm 
(aduh, 
> > > saya 
> > > > mesti minta komisi nih dari antam ). It takes patience & 
time 
> to 
> > > > achieve great wealth. Kecuali mau trading harian...mending 
ke 
> > > Genting 
> > > > aja pak lebih seru   
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > sulistyo_winarto <sulistyo_winarto@> wrote:
> > > > >           Dear Sobat2 OB,
> > > > > Soal ANTM punya aku gimana nehh ? dibeli, buat warisan 
anak2 
> > > kalo 
> > > > > udah gede aja.
> > > > > Ini cuplikan dari luar & dalam soal ANTM
> > > > > 
> > > > > Aneka Tambang Tbk PT ANTM.JK (Jakarta)
> > > > > Sector: Basic Materials Industry: Gold & Silver View 
ANTM.JK 
> on 
> > > > > other exchanges 
> > > > > As of 4:00 AM EST
> > > > > Rp.3,675IDR 
> > > > > Price Change
> > > > > 125.00 
> > > > > Percent Change
> > > > > 3.52% 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Profile Report 
> > > > > Consensus Recommendation Company Fiscal Year End Month 
Last 
> > > > > Updated
> > > > > HOLD December Monday, November 05, 2007
> > > > > Analyst Recommendations and Revisions
> > > > > 1-5 Linear ScaleCurrent 1 Month Ago 2 Months Ago 1 Year Ago
> > > > > BUY (1) 2 2 3 1
> > > > > OUTPERFORM (2) 2 2 1 0
> > > > > HOLD (3) 3 3 3 7
> > > > > UNDERPERFORM (4)2 1 1 0
> > > > > SELL (5) 3 3 4 1
> > > > > No Opinion 0 0 0 0
> > > > > 
> > > > > 3.18 3.09 3.17 3.00
> > > > > NB : semakin besar nilai rekomendasi, maka semakin kurang 
> > disukai
> > > > > 
> > > > > ANTM Kesulitan Jadi Perusahaan Kelas Dunia
> > > > > Posted November 2nd, 2007 by Redaksi
> > > > > o Berita 
> > > > > o detik Finance 
> > > > > Perusahaan pelat merah, PT Aneka Tambang Tbk (Antam) 
mengaku 
> > > sulit 
> > > > > berkembang menjadi perusahaan kelas dunia seperti 
Companhia 
> > Vale 
> > > do 
> > > > > Rio Doce (CVRD) dengan kondisi seperti sekarang. 
> > > > > Dirut Antam D Aditya Sumanegara menjelaskannya dalam 
diskusi 
> > > > > pertambangan yang digelar di Graha Niaga, Jakarta, Jumat 
> > > > (2/11/2007).
> > > > > Berita selengkapnya bisa dilihat di detik Finance
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "gmail-
doekoen.jamoe" 
> > > > > <doekoen.jamoe@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Quote from Klubsaham.com
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Aneka Tambang, Riding On Metal Prices
> > > > > > (ANTM.JK/ANTM IJ - Rp3,550) - SELL (under review) Result
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ANTM posted 9M07 revenues of Rp8.3tr or up by 143.1% YoY 
> > > buoyed 
> > > > by 
> > > > > strong metal prices and higher sales volume of high-grade 
> > nickel 
> > > > > ores. Higher prices guarded costs that have been hiking 
> > > throughout 
> > > > > the year. ???? [size=18][b]
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > DISINI SI ANALIS TIDAK LIHAT REPORT PENGELUARAN BULANAN 
> ANTM, 
> > > > > DIA HANYA MENGUTARAKAN PENDAPAT PRIBADI.[/b][/size]
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > As a result, ANTM registered robust gross profit and 
> > operating 
> > > > > profit growth by 262.0% and 289.7%, respectively. Joint 
with 
> > > higher 
> > > > > dividend income, net interest income as well as a one-off 
> item 
> > > > > amounted Rp86bn, the company's strong operation 
performance 
> > > lifted 
> > > > > net profit by 373.7% YoY to Rp3.8tr.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Sales volume of high-grade nickel ores, gold, and silver 
> > > advanced 
> > > > > by 126%, 83%, and 18% YoY to 5.0m wet metric ton (wmt), 
> 3.7ton, 
> > > and 
> > > > > 18.9ton, respectively, compensating lower sales volume of 
> low-
> > > grade 
> > > > > nickel ores, bauxite, and ferronickel that dropped 62%, 
23%, 
> > and 
> > > 4% 
> > > > > to 0.2mn wmt, 0.8mn wmt, and 9,279 ton. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > QoQ basis, ANTM booked 3Q07 revenues, gross profit, 
> operating 
> > > > > profit, and net profit of Rp2.3tr (-37.8% QoQ), Rp1.4tr (-
> 48.1% 
> > > > > QoQ), Rp1.2tr (-51.5% QoQ), and [b]Rp958.1bn [/b](-46.8% 
> QoQ).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Stock Data
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > PERHATIKAN ANGKA-ANGKA AJAIB BERIKUT INI, ANGKA-ANGKA 
INI 
> > > KELUAR 
> > > > > TANPA ADA HUBUNGANNYA DENGAN ANGKA-ANGKA YANG DISAMPAIKAN 
> > DIATAS!
> > > > > > Target Price: Rp2,720 angka ajaib !!!
> > > > > > P/E (x): 7.8 angka lebih ajaib !!!
> > > > > > KENAPA CUMAN 7.8? APA NGAK TERLALU BESAR? KENAPA TIDAK 
> 6.18? 
> > > ATAU 
> > > > > 5.5? ATAU 4.3? ATAU.....1 (satu) ?
> > > > > > P/BV (x): 3.8
> > > > > > Div. Yield (%): 7.0 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Comment
> > > > > > High metal prices has been the driving factor for 
stellar 
> > 9M07 
> > > > > performance, bringing ANTM sets of record performances 
from 
> top 
> > > > line 
> > > > > (exceeding US$900m) to bottom line (exceeding US$400m). 
> > However, 
> > > > > cost concerns will be the next crucial theme going into 
4Q07 
> > and 
> > > > > onwards as oil price continues to strengthen while base 
> metal 
> > > > prices 
> > > > > has started to decline. With the absence of huge capital-
> > > intensive 
> > > > > projects, strong metal prices generated generous free cash 
> > flows 
> > > > > that helped ANTM solidify its balance sheet, raising cash 
by 
> > > more 
> > > > > than 4.0x to Rp4.4tr and trimmed debt by 38% YoY to 
Rp1.0tr. 
> As 
> > > a 
> > > > > result, ANTM's balance sheet reported a turnaround from 
> > > reporting a 
> > > > > net debt of Rp770bn a year earlier to a net cash of 
Rp3.4tr 
> or 
> > > net 
> > > > > cash per share of Rp355. A strong balance sheet should 
> provide 
> > a 
> > > > > leeway for ANTM to materialize their acquisition plans. An 
> > > > > accidental stoppage of the newly built FeNi-3 unit in mid-
> 2Q07 
> > > > > resulted in a 20% QoQ decline in ferronickel production. 
> > > Luckily, 
> > > > > ANTM was able to offset the lower contribution from 
> ferronickel 
> > > by 
> > > > > boosting the sales of high-grade nickel ores to China. 
Going 
> > > > > forward, ANTM toned down its ferronickel production target 
> in 
> > > 2008 
> > > > > to 17,000 ton from high 20,000 ton. Gold production from 
> > Pongkor 
> > > > has 
> > > > > been slow to pick up with growth of only 1.0% YoY, while 
> > > reporting 
> > > > a 
> > > > > 3.0% QoQ production decline in 9M07.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > AIYA ! TERNYATA ANGKA Rp2,720 DENGAN PE 7.8an DIDASARKAN 
> NETT 
> > > > CASH 
> > > > > HINGGA BULAN SEP 07. YAITU SEBESAR RP 355 x7.8 (7.8 
sendiri 
> > > entah 
> > > > > angka keramat dari mana?) 
> > > > > > BARU 1 KALI INI AKU LIHAT SEORANG ANALIS MEMPERKIRAKAN 
> Price 
> > > > > Earning Ratio TERHADAP NETT CASH, BUKAN NETT PROFIT 
> > > > > KUARTALAN/TAHUNAN!
> > > > > > WOW, MUNGKIN INI CARA ANALISA YANG BARU !
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ANTM performance in 3Q07 was weak due to: 
> > > > > > 1) declining prices of all metals produced by the 
company, 
> > > except 
> > > > > gold; 
> > > > > > 2) lower sales volume of ferronickel and high-grade ores 
> amid 
> > > > > higher sales of gold and silver; and
> > > > > > 3) continued cost escalation. Consequently, we are not 
> > > surprised 
> > > > > to by the set of weak quarterly result.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > We are revising our projections, hence our 
recommendation 
> and 
> > > > > target price. Base metal prices have started to rebound 
> albeit 
> > > at a 
> > > > > slow pace, while gold price is on the up trend. Any gold 
> mine 
> > > > > acquisition, could be a potential surprise; yet, it hinges 
> on 
> > > the 
> > > > > quality of the mine. Financial Summary Y-o-Y and Q-o-Q 
> > > > Profitability 
> > > > > Performance
> > > > > > (Rpbn) 9M06 9M07 Chg (%) 2Q07 3Q07 Chg (%)
> > > > > > Revenue 3,401 8,270 143.1 3,628 2,256 (37.8)
> > > > > > Gross profit 1,506 5,452 262.0 2,601 1,350 (48.1)
> > > > > > Operating profit 1,317 5,132 289.7 2,496 1,211 (51.5)
> > > > > > Net profit 809 3,831 373.7 1,800 958 (46.8)
> > > > > > Gross margin (%) 44.3 65.9 71.7 59.8
> > > > > > Operating margin (%) 38.7 62.1 68.8 53.7
> > > > > > Net margin (%) 23.8 46.3 49.6 42.5
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Adi Hartadi
> > > > > > Tel: (6221) 515 2727
> > > > > > adi.hartadi@
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > DISCLAIMER
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > MAKELAR BILANG BAHWA RESEARCH DARI SI ADI HARTADI BULL 
> SHIT!
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Tapi sejujurnya Makelar sih senang kalau ANTM turun lagi 
> > > karena 
> > > > > sejujurnya ANTM overweight ama penumpang retail, sebaiknya 
> para 
> > > > > retail kecil seperti makelar dan teman-teman pada lepasin 
> > barang-
> > > > > barangnya agar ngereknya ngak susah. hi....hi....hi...
> > > > > > Disclaimer on.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Daisy You've got friend now!
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >                          
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