--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Aa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ya itu masalahnya,kita cuma bisa beli,ngak kuat angkat harga 
sahamnya

> 
  Kalau ramai ramai ikut beli, harga pasti akan naik cepat.
  Ini terbukti harganya naik pelan pelan, yg penting lebih
  untung dari bunga bank saja.  

> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "tbumi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 11:15 AM
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Re : ANTM Sell by LG
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Aa" <aang88@> wrote:
> > Hitungan sederhana saja, kalau anda beli di hari ini
>   dengan harga tertinggi Rp. 3900, memang tinggi utk hari ini,
>   tapi utk 2 tahun lagi saham ANTM pasti tidak dihargai
>   lagi di Rp. 3900. Bisa saja sudah tembus 10'000 dalam
>   2 tahun lagi. Kalau anda deposito dalam 2 tahun, berarti
>   dana yg Rp. 3900, menjadi paling paling di Rp. 4800. 
> 
> 
> 
> > Kalau ada duit ya beli lagi,kan buat invest
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "pemainedan" <pemainedan@>
> > To: <obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:35 AM
> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Re : ANTM Sell by LG
> > 
> > 
> > Biasanya (dari pengalaman dulu2) kalo udah gini, bentar lagi 
> > dijeblokin, biar seolah2 analisa mereka benar. Ingat peristiwa 
dulu 
> > wkt ML kasih target INCO 42000, PGAS 8000 (kl tidak salah)? 
> Akhirnya 
> > dijeblokin ke dekat2 angka tsb. 
> > 
> > Nanti setelah itu ditarik kencang sampai ga terkejar lagi. So, 
> > mudah2an bener dijeblokin, biar bisa collect lbh buanyak2.
> > 
> > > > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "gmail-
> > doekoen.jamoe" 
> > > > > > > <doekoen.jamoe@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Quote from Klubsaham.com
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Aneka Tambang, Riding On Metal Prices
> > > > > > > > (ANTM.JK/ANTM IJ - Rp3,550) - SELL (under review) 
Result
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > ANTM posted 9M07 revenues of Rp8.3tr or up by 143.1% 
> YoY 
> > > > > buoyed 
> > > > > > by 
> > > > > > > strong metal prices and higher sales volume of high-
grade 
> > > > nickel 
> > > > > > > ores. Higher prices guarded costs that have been hiking 
> > > > > throughout 
> > > > > > > the year. ???? [size=18][b]
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > DISINI SI ANALIS TIDAK LIHAT REPORT PENGELUARAN 
BULANAN 
> > > > ANTM, 
> > > > > > > DIA HANYA MENGUTARAKAN PENDAPAT PRIBADI.[/b][/size]
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > As a result, ANTM registered robust gross profit and 
> > > > operating 
> > > > > > > profit growth by 262.0% and 289.7%, respectively. Joint 
> > with 
> > > > > higher 
> > > > > > > dividend income, net interest income as well as a one-
off 
> > > item 
> > > > > > > amounted Rp86bn, the company's strong operation 
> > performance 
> > > > > lifted 
> > > > > > > net profit by 373.7% YoY to Rp3.8tr.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Sales volume of high-grade nickel ores, gold, and 
> silver 
> > > > > advanced 
> > > > > > > by 126%, 83%, and 18% YoY to 5.0m wet metric ton (wmt), 
> > > > 3.7ton, 
> > > > > and 
> > > > > > > 18.9ton, respectively, compensating lower sales volume 
of 
> > > low-
> > > > > grade 
> > > > > > > nickel ores, bauxite, and ferronickel that dropped 62%, 
> > 23%, 
> > > > and 
> > > > > 4% 
> > > > > > > to 0.2mn wmt, 0.8mn wmt, and 9,279 ton. 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > QoQ basis, ANTM booked 3Q07 revenues, gross profit, 
> > > > operating 
> > > > > > > profit, and net profit of Rp2.3tr (-37.8% QoQ), Rp1.4tr 
(-
> > > > 48.1% 
> > > > > > > QoQ), Rp1.2tr (-51.5% QoQ), and [b]Rp958.1bn [/b](-
46.8% 
> > > QoQ).
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Stock Data
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > PERHATIKAN ANGKA-ANGKA AJAIB BERIKUT INI, ANGKA-ANGKA 
> > INI 
> > > > > KELUAR 
> > > > > > > TANPA ADA HUBUNGANNYA DENGAN ANGKA-ANGKA YANG 
DISAMPAIKAN 
> > > > DIATAS!
> > > > > > > > Target Price: Rp2,720 angka ajaib !!!
> > > > > > > > P/E (x): 7.8 angka lebih ajaib !!!
> > > > > > > > KENAPA CUMAN 7.8? APA NGAK TERLALU BESAR? KENAPA 
TIDAK 
> > > 6.18? 
> > > > > ATAU 
> > > > > > > 5.5? ATAU 4.3? ATAU.....1 (satu) ?
> > > > > > > > P/BV (x): 3.8
> > > > > > > > Div. Yield (%): 7.0 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Comment
> > > > > > > > High metal prices has been the driving factor for 
> > stellar 
> > > > 9M07 
> > > > > > > performance, bringing ANTM sets of record performances 
> > from 
> > > > top 
> > > > > > line 
> > > > > > > (exceeding US$900m) to bottom line (exceeding US$400m). 
> > > > However, 
> > > > > > > cost concerns will be the next crucial theme going into 
> > 4Q07 
> > > > and 
> > > > > > > onwards as oil price continues to strengthen while base 
> > > metal 
> > > > > > prices 
> > > > > > > has started to decline. With the absence of huge 
capital-
> > > > > intensive 
> > > > > > > projects, strong metal prices generated generous free 
> cash 
> > > > flows 
> > > > > > > that helped ANTM solidify its balance sheet, raising 
cash 
> > by 
> > > > > more 
> > > > > > > than 4.0x to Rp4.4tr and trimmed debt by 38% YoY to 
> > Rp1.0tr. 
> > > > As 
> > > > > a 
> > > > > > > result, ANTM's balance sheet reported a turnaround from 
> > > > > reporting a 
> > > > > > > net debt of Rp770bn a year earlier to a net cash of 
> > Rp3.4tr 
> > > or 
> > > > > net 
> > > > > > > cash per share of Rp355. A strong balance sheet should 
> > > provide 
> > > > a 
> > > > > > > leeway for ANTM to materialize their acquisition plans. 
> An 
> > > > > > > accidental stoppage of the newly built FeNi-3 unit in 
mid-
> > > 2Q07 
> > > > > > > resulted in a 20% QoQ decline in ferronickel 
production. 
> > > > > Luckily, 
> > > > > > > ANTM was able to offset the lower contribution from 
> > > > ferronickel 
> > > > > by 
> > > > > > > boosting the sales of high-grade nickel ores to China. 
> > Going 
> > > > > > > forward, ANTM toned down its ferronickel production 
> target 
> > > in 
> > > > > 2008 
> > > > > > > to 17,000 ton from high 20,000 ton. Gold production 
from 
> > > > Pongkor 
> > > > > > has 
> > > > > > > been slow to pick up with growth of only 1.0% YoY, 
while 
> > > > > reporting 
> > > > > > a 
> > > > > > > 3.0% QoQ production decline in 9M07.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > AIYA ! TERNYATA ANGKA Rp2,720 DENGAN PE 7.8an 
> DIDASARKAN 
> > > > NETT 
> > > > > > CASH 
> > > > > > > HINGGA BULAN SEP 07. YAITU SEBESAR RP 355 x7.8 (7.8 
> > sendiri 
> > > > > entah 
> > > > > > > angka keramat dari mana?) 
> > > > > > > > BARU 1 KALI INI AKU LIHAT SEORANG ANALIS 
MEMPERKIRAKAN 
> > > Price 
> > > > > > > Earning Ratio TERHADAP NETT CASH, BUKAN NETT PROFIT 
> > > > > > > KUARTALAN/TAHUNAN!
> > > > > > > > WOW, MUNGKIN INI CARA ANALISA YANG BARU !
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > ANTM performance in 3Q07 was weak due to: 
> > > > > > > > 1) declining prices of all metals produced by the 
> > company, 
> > > > > except 
> > > > > > > gold; 
> > > > > > > > 2) lower sales volume of ferronickel and high-grade 
> ores 
> > > > amid 
> > > > > > > higher sales of gold and silver; and
> > > > > > > > 3) continued cost escalation. Consequently, we are 
not 
> > > > > surprised 
> > > > > > > to by the set of weak quarterly result.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > We are revising our projections, hence our 
> > recommendation 
> > > > and 
> > > > > > > target price. Base metal prices have started to rebound 
> > > albeit 
> > > > > at a 
> > > > > > > slow pace, while gold price is on the up trend. Any 
gold 
> > > mine 
> > > > > > > acquisition, could be a potential surprise; yet, it 
> hinges 
> > > on 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > > quality of the mine. Financial Summary Y-o-Y and Q-o-Q 
> > > > > > Profitability 
> > > > > > > Performance
> > > > > > > > (Rpbn) 9M06 9M07 Chg (%) 2Q07 3Q07 Chg (%)
> > > > > > > > Revenue 3,401 8,270 143.1 3,628 2,256 (37.8)
> > > > > > > > Gross profit 1,506 5,452 262.0 2,601 1,350 (48.1)
> > > > > > > > Operating profit 1,317 5,132 289.7 2,496 1,211 (51.5)
> > > > > > > > Net profit 809 3,831 373.7 1,800 958 (46.8)
> > > > > > > > Gross margin (%) 44.3 65.9 71.7 59.8
> > > > > > > > Operating margin (%) 38.7 62.1 68.8 53.7
> > > > > > > > Net margin (%) 23.8 46.3 49.6 42.5
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Adi Hartadi
> > > > > > > > Tel: (6221) 515 2727
> > > > > > > > adi.hartadi@
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > MAKELAR BILANG BAHWA RESEARCH DARI SI ADI HARTADI 
BULL 
> > > SHIT!
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Tapi sejujurnya Makelar sih senang kalau ANTM turun 
> lagi 
> > > > > karena 
> > > > > > > sejujurnya ANTM overweight ama penumpang retail, 
> sebaiknya 
> > > > para 
> > > > > > > retail kecil seperti makelar dan teman-teman pada 
lepasin 
> > > > barang-
> > > > > > > barangnya agar ngereknya ngak susah. hi....hi....hi...
> > > > > > > > Disclaimer on.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Daisy You've got friend now!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
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