Percaya deh, kan BIG FM, Bandar dsb nya mereka butuh retailers dan traders agar pasarnya bergerak. Yang dicari kan volatility harga.
Sama kayak MAKRO butuh pedagang kecil utk menyerap dagangan dia, Atau ikan paus butuh plankton utk hidup Kalo pasar mati siapa yang dagang lagi ? Masak Bandar makan Bandar ?? Jadi kalo mau maen aman cari profit sekitar 3% - 10% ajah Diatas itu udah jadi makanan Bandar EL kan kasih hints nya juga karena tugas dia adalah bocorin info / strategi pasar dikit-dikit agar tetap gairah Apalagi majority adalah man-market, dikasih foto MACAN aja udah pada horny semua (yang itu mah anggap aja bonus) Tapi bozz nya EL butuh kita2 utk tetap exist biar pasar bergoyang terus Jadi bisa pake strategi OENTOENG dgn surfing the wave karena dekat sama ombak besar Atau pake DEs way dgn optimist ajah, toh long term - 4 taon lagi semua seems OK Atau pake jalan SBY, tinggal nunggu hokie te it . Yang penting doa Kalo mau greedy harus punya info yag sahih A3K ________________________________________ From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Jone Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 8:50 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: SUPERBOZZ --- Re: Pak Oentoeng JANTAN, EL BETINA ?...Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Awas BULL TRAP! sbrapabesar kapitalisasi superbozz yg bisa mengombang ambing harga di bei?? mereka besar dan (ber) satu, kita mungkin lebih besar tp terpecah pecah.....tp yg jelas selain sangat besar pastilah kumpulan org2 jenius dan berpengalaman spt EL....., oh my good we re against intelligent machine operated by some genius person..., Bisa jadi mesin pinter ini jg membuat pola2 bulish berubah jadi bearish...., pendekar ta bisa kelimpungan jg..., kalo tau yg dia lawan mesin...., Liat order done... nilainya 2 lot doang berderet2...., spt gak mungkin dilakukan manusia secara serempak..., bid and offer tiba2 numpuk...., tau2 ilang...., mengganggu psikology trader, mungkin mesin itu tau/menghitung dah brp trader diluar sistem yg cut loss bear trap ato kena bull trap.. bahkan ada hitungan untung dan ruginya sehingga dgn mudah mengambil keputusan........., mengerikan............, Suasana ekonomi dunia memungkin mereka mengganggu psikologi kita...., its not good way for unexperienced trader for trading in this situation. Ini lawannya Mbah, Pak Oen, dan Kang Ocoy....., We re waiting for your command masters...., thanks to mbah, Pak Oen dan Kang Ocoy yg slalu memberi pencerahan pada ritail yg dah babak belur bulan ini spt kita....., Butuh Katalis positif utk melawan kerugian ini yaitu ekonomi dunia yg mebaik....., 2008/3/24, Elaine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: But it wouldn't be fun at all.... at least for me... and I did explain what barriers are. Ok, I'll write here again: For those who didn't catch up: barriers = big, seem unpenetrable offer(bid) queue, effective for moving the price up/down and play a big role in psychological wars headshots = phantom bid/offers = sudden (dis)appearing of bids/offers, ppl often lured in this kinda situation, got panicked and cut loss. Most traders can't see the difference between DONE vs WITHDRAWN. All they see (and belief) is that the BID/OFFERS are GONE. They THOUGHT they were TRX DONE, but the fact is most of the time they were WITHDRAWN (either partially or completely) That's just an example on how to drive the market prices. It's difficult to see (for average retail traders) to see what the "real" transactions are (especially in high frequency orders). Most of Institutional dealer use special tools to do this (like LatentZero/RoyalBlue/Fidessa or Bloomberg TOMS and some more sophisticated and exotic tools). I'm not going to get technical (since I'm not a dealer myself), maybe someone here can help me about this?. I remember someone mentioned about Mechanical Trading. If you want to know about it, I suggest try google first :) Ok, may be you ask "why'd they need that?" Simple. These robots KNOW ABOUT TECHNICAL, from simple trendline to the most complex formula. They monitor money flow, regional markets, futurues, cmdy prices, fundamentals, currencies even rumors, news and running trades. They can mix any kind of information, and give the best price to be ordered. They literally can READ market psychology, and most of the "core" logic are to be CONTRARIAN. That's why I said that I don't trade. I set target. Cuz, that's what I do, and I just let these robots do my command. Compared to "mature" market like those in Wall Street, IDX market capitalization are very small. It's very EASY to move it up and down. One of the real example of Mechanical Trading effect was the Dotcom Crash in 2000, August 07 global crash, and the recent commodity bubble crash. The firms who used these tools have virtually unlimited resources (aka Money) to get what they want, and they're working not just in IDX, but in all markets in the world. Maybe this sounds like a science fiction for some. But this is real. Don't ever try to beat these machines. Well, actually I don't have anything else to explain, since you (Embah) and Oentoeng are already know and aware of it. (Why the hell am I telling you this, I'm killing myself..lol) Oh, fyi we work in groups. Now, is there any question so far, kids? Elaine On 3/24/08, jsx_consultant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Pak Ontoeng udah kasih opini JANTAN terbuka.. salute to you... Kita tunggu apa EL berani ngasih opini JANTAN juga ??? Embah pengen tahu apakah DIDALAM strong character EL, juga ada KEBERANIAN untuk bicara secara JANTAN (= GAMBLANG dan JELAS) tanpa pake: kode kodean lah, barrier lah... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "oentoeng_qq" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > P. Rei... > > Katanya Elaine khan MARCH MADNESS, saya baru inget kl bulan MARET > ini belon berakhir. > Trus saya kok feeling ama ketawa EL itu agak aneh gitu... > Saya perhatikan hari ini kok byk yg "rebutan jualan"... > Kayaknya BIG TSUNAMI sudah dekat nih... > > Saya tunggu seminggu ini deh, semoga lekas datang biar JELAS > sekalian. > Ntar malem, moga2 di mimpi saya keluar tgl dan harinya KAPAN? > Kayak nomer togel aja yah, hahaha.... > Kalau belon keluar paling lambat saya tunggu sampe awal bulan depan! > > Karena BIG TSUNAMI kalau keluar beneran target 2000 akan NYAMPE! > So...be careful ajalah! > > Good luck! > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei <highwaystar91@> wrote: > > > > Maksudnya apa pak Oen? > > Bingung nih kalo ngomongnya pake istilah2 begini yg hanya > dimengerti beberapa pihak saja...ini milis kan isinya org2 biasa > jadi jadikanlah kami juga bagian dari pertunjukan anda, jangan > eksklusif buat pihak2 tertentu saja :D > > > > > > oentoeng_qq <oentoeng_qq@> wrote: > > Yang jelas Elaine akan menyelesaikan MARCH MADNESSnya di > MINGGU INI. > > Kalau liat ketawanya yg kayak kuntilanak, mestinya penantian ini > > nggak akan lama. > > > > Tunggu saja AKSInya... > > MENTAL sudah tidak berdaya, tapi KAKI masih kuat berdiri khan? > > Ya nggak El? > > Hehehe.... > > > > > ----- Pesan Asli ---- > > > Dari: Elaine <you.can.call.me.elaine@> > > > Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com > > > Terkirim: Senin, 24 Maret, 2008 13:23:39 > > > Topik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Awas BULL TRAP! > > > > > > hihi no more free lunch.. you're on your own now. Don't be too > > dependent to Elaine, use your own analysis... come on, you're good > > trader, right? How could you believe me more than your own > > analysis..lol. . > > > > > > Elaine > > > > > >
