Emmm iya sih... Kl menurut pemahamanku, intinya ya uang sendiri jangan diperdagangkan... valuenya harus stabil... Dan menghilangkan tambahan yang ga ada produktifitasnya (riba)... kayanya jadi tengah2 antara kapitalis dan sosialis..
--- kang_ocoy_maen_saham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ya itu, mereka kaya at expense of "weak-side" macem > kita.. sistem > ekonomi syariah itu adil dan menenteramkan > sebenernya kalo > diterapin., tp susah banget kali yah > implementasinya.. > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Steve > Kosasih" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Sistem tidak ada yang sempurna. > > > > Tapi kadang-kadang kita kurang mengerti esensi > sesungguhnya dari > sistem > > EKONOMI kapitalis atau sosialis. Esensinya adalah > kadar kebebasan > > perekonomian dan kebebasan dalan berbisnis. > Kapitalis cenderung > diatur agar > > lebih bebas, sementara sosialis cenderung diatur > agar lebih "sesuai > dengan > > keinginan mayoritas" (yang belum tentu sesuai > dengan kaidah bisnis). > > > > Sejauh ini, terbukti dari indeks yang dibikin dari > badan pengamat > korupsi > > dan badan riset kesejahteraan dunia global "2007 > Index of World > Economic > > Freedom", negara-negara yang menganut faham > kapitalis SELALU jauh > lebih > > makmur masyarakatnya (baik yang bekerja di pasar > modal maupun yang > tidak) > > dibanding yang menganut faham sosialis. > > > > Orang-orang miskin di negara-negara Kapitalis pun > lebih "makmur" > daripada > > orang-orang miskin di negara-negara Sosialis > > > > Saya cuma ingat TOP 7 dari TOP 25 yang EKONOMI-nya > Paling Kapitalis > (higher > > economic freedom): > > > > Nomor 1 adalah......... Hong Kong (tetap dihitung > "negara" karena > punya mata > > uang sendiri) > > Nomor 2 adalah......... Singapura (hehehe...) > > Nomor 3 adalah......... Australia > > Nomor 4 adalah......... Selandia Baru > > Nomor 5 adalah......... Amerika (bukan nomor 1 tuh > ternyata...) > > Nomor 6 adalah......... Inggris & Irlandia > (skor-nya sama) > > Nomor 7 adalah......... Luxemburg & Swiss > (skor-nya sama) > > > > Juga TOP 7 dari TOP 25 yang EKONOMI-nya Paling > Sosialis (lower > economic > > freedom): > > > > Nomor 1 adalah......... Kuba (paling ancur) > > Nomor 2 adalah......... Libya > > Nomor 3 adalah......... Zimbabwe > > Nomor 4 adalah......... Burma > > Nomor 5 adalah......... Turkmenistan > > Nomor 6 adalah......... Kongo > > Nomor 7 adalah......... Iran > > > > Di situ jelas terlihat bahwa negara-negara yang > paling tidak bebas > > perekonomiannya (bukan pergaulannya) alias yang > Paling Tidak > Kapitalistik > > perekonomiannya adalah juga yang paling miskin > masyarakatnya, > meskipun > > sumberdaya negaranya berlimpah-limpah. > > > > Juga tidak ada hubungannya apakah negara itu bekas > jajahan atau > bukan. > > > > Indonesia sendiri bagaimana? Apakah kita sudah > benar-benar memiliki > > perekonomian yang benar-benar mendukung dunia > bisnis? Silakan teman- > teman > > kaji sendiri. > > > > Salam OB... > > > > *Penjelasan soal Economic Freedom silakan lihat di > bawah, saya > kutip buat > > teman-teman OB: > > * > > The "2007 Index of Economic Freedom" displays a > color-coded map > showing > > countries that are free, mostly free, moderately > free, mostly > unfree and > > repressed. > > > > Guess where one finds the world's most miserably > poor people? If > you guessed > > the mostly unfree and repressed countries, you > guessed correctly. > > > > Some people claim that some countries are rich > because of abundant > natural > > resources. That's nonsense! Africa and South > America are probably > the > > richest continents in natural resources, but are > home to some of > the world's > > poorest people. By contrast, countries like > England, Japan and Hong > Kong are > > poor in natural resources, but their people are > among the world's > > wealthiest. Hong Kong even has to import its food > and water. > > > > Some people use the history of colonialism as an > excuse for > poverty. That's > > also nonsense. The United States was a colony. So > were Canada, > Australia, > > New Zealand and Hong Kong, but they're rich > countries. > > > > The reason some countries are rich while others > are poor is best > explained > > by the amount of economic freedom its peoples > enjoy and the extent > of > > government control over economic matters. > > > > Don't make the mistake of equating economic > freedom with democracy. > After > > all, India, politically, is a democracy, but > economically it is > mostly > > unfree and poor, ranking 104th in economic > freedom. There are > countries on > > the economic freedom index that do not have much > of a history of > democracy, > > such as Chile, ranking 11th, and Taiwan, 26th, and > yet these > countries are > > far wealthier than some of their more democratic > counterparts. > > Why? > > It's because their economic systems are free or > mostly free, which > is not > > guaranteed by a democratic political system. > > The economic development lesson is clear: Have a > system of economic > freedom > > and grow rich. > > > > *Extensive government control, weak property > rights and government > > corruption almost guarantee poverty*. A country's > institutional > > infrastructure is critical to its economic growth > and the well- > being of its > > citizens. *The most critical are protection of > private property, > enforcement > > of contracts and rule of law.* > > > > > > *On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 12:02 PM, > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:* > > Kapitalisme banyak wrongnya Pak. > > > > Khususnya untuk komunitas NON BARAT ... Bahkan > untuk dunia Barat > > juga... someday in the near future > === message truncated === ________________________________________________________ Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di di bidang Anda! Kunjungi Yahoo! Answers saat ini juga di http://id.answers.yahoo.com/