(apologies, been off barcamping for a few days)
From CABForum's pov this is probably a welcome if painful and
controversial step forward.
From Mozilla's pov however it remains a tiny step on a long journey.
Mitchell recently posted elsewhere that this new policy is now operative:
http://www.mozilla.org/about/policies/participation.html
As it stands, according to that document, CABForum and Mozilla cannot
mix. My reading at least.
I recently wrote to Mitchell and Deborah expressing my concern about how
Mozilla continues to participate on the one hand in an exclusionary
organisation, and on the other, to promote an inclusionary agenda and
see itself as part of the open web community.
To attempt to be constructive, only when CABForum permits the joining of
their organisations, without restrictions currently in place to maintain
the power of the incumbents to set self-serving standards, will CABForum
be in any way compatible with the open web. Especially, Mozilla's
statement (found in their active policy):
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Some Mozillians may identify with activities or organizations that do
not support the same inclusion and diversity standards as Mozilla. When
this is the case:
(a) support for exclusionary practices must not be carried into
Mozilla activities.
(b) support for exclusionary practices in non-Mozilla activities
should not be expressed in Mozilla spaces.
(c) when if (a) and (b) are met, other Mozillians should treat this
as a private matter, not a Mozilla issue.
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iang
On 27/07/12 05:00 AM, Gervase Markham wrote:
Members of this list may be interested in the following motion just
passed by the CAB Forum, and the consequent visibility they will be able
to get into the CAB Forum's doings via the mailing list
"[email protected]".
There was some opposition to publishing the details of who exactly voted
which way, and so I did not include that in this motion. A future motion
may address the question.
Gerv
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [cabfpub] Ballot[79] - Mailing list usage
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 15:02:58 +0000
From: Tim Moses <[email protected]>
To: CABFPub <[email protected]>
Mailing list usage
Vote
Yes: 15
No: None
Abstain: None
Result: Approved
*From:*[email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tim Moses
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:07 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* [cabfman] Ballot[79] - Mailing list usage
Gervase Markham made the following motion and Chris Palmer and Eddy Nigg
endorsed it:
Wishing to establish guidelines for the use of the new public mailing list,
.... Motion begins....
Effective immediately, the Forum resolves that:
1) Draft and final agenda for Forum meetings (both virtual and
in-person, and including any sub-groups or committees) will be posted to
the public list.
2) Draft minutes of Forum meetings (both virtual and in-person, and
including any sub-groups or committees) will be posted to the private
list to allow members to make sure they are being correctly reported.
Minutes will be considered Final when approved at a subsequent Forum
meeting, or after 2 weeks have elapsed since publication of the draft if
no meeting is imminent. Final minutes will then be posted to the public
list. The Chair will, upon request, make redactions of any part of the
public copy of the minutes identified as private or sensitive by either
the information discloser or a member mentioned or affiliated with the
subject of the information.
3) Messages formally moving a Forum motion and announcing ballot
outcomes, including vote and quorum counts, will be posted to the public
list. The details of who voted for what will continue to be posted, now
as a separate message, to the private list.
4) In other cases, individuals have discretion about which mailing list
they use, but are strongly encouraged to use the public mailing list for
matters other than security incidents or those which require commercial
confidentiality.
Members are strongly discouraged from posting the text of private-list
messages to the public list without the permission of the author.
If this motion passes, the ballot outcome message will be posted to the
public list under 3) above.
The ballot review period comes into effect at 21:00 UTC on 11 July 2012
and will close at 21:00 UTC on 18 July 2012. Unless the motion is
withdrawn during the review period, the voting period will start
immediately thereafter and will close at 21:00 UTC on 25 July 2012.
Votes must be cast by “reply all” to this message.
A vote in favour of the motion must indicate a clear 'yes' in the
response. A vote against must indicate a clear 'no' in the response. A
vote to abstain must indicate a clear 'abstain' in the response. Unclear
responses will not be counted. The latest vote received from any
representative of a voting member before the close of the voting period
will be counted.
.... Motion ends ...
Voting members are listed here:
http://www.cabforum.org/forum.html
with the addition of TrendMicro
<https://www.cabforum.org/wiki/TrendMicro> and E-TUGRA.
In order for the motion to be adopted, two thirds or more of the votes
cast by members in the CA category and one half or more of the votes
cast by members in the browser category must be in favour. Also, at
least eight members must participate in the ballot, either by voting in
favour, voting against or abstaining.
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