2011/11/18 Martin Helm <mar...@mhelm.de>: > Am 18.11.2011 20:39, schrieb Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso: >> You really don't think that license managers, software patents, NDAs, >> non-competition agreements, hidden source code, secret algorithms, and >> forbidding your users from doing whatever they want with the software >> is at all bad? That's what the opposite of free software is. And >> that's what I don't think should be encouraged by Octave-Forge. > > This was not directed to me, but I still feel the need to comment on that. > What you describe are all kinds of bad business practices thrown > together in one melting pot and claiming that this is the mere > definition of whatever exist as proprietary software is. > You obviously never made a program for a paying customer which is > delivered as the sole property for that customer for example
Yes I have. I've built in-house software. And I actually gave it to the company under the terms of the GPL. They've kept it in-house, which suits me and the company fine. > You obviously never worked for a small company making highly > customized software for a small amount of users which simply will > not work without paying developers for their work and which will > lead to no income if you give it away waiting for a donation I'm not sure I have. I've worked on a company that has delivered software as service. Our customers seemed happy with our results. It was mostly-in house work too. We only had one or two customers, but they were pretty large companies happy with the result of our work. I am now much happier working for a company that lets me work on Octave, however. > It seems to me from the tone I see in your other post that only one > person has the right point of view and that is you, everyone else > who has a slightly different opinion just fails compared to that. No. My opinions can be wrong. I try to explain why they might not be. But if I am wrong, don't be afraid to point it out, as you are now. > Let me ask you who empowered you to speak as representative for the > free software community Nobody did. And I do not speak for everyone. However, GNU does have a fairly unified viewpoint that I happen to share, and as a GNU user and contributor, I do feel a certain entitlement to espousing the views of that project. > which does not consist only of the FSF and the GNU project and to > bash other people? Whom am I bashing? I apologise to anyone whom I have bashed. Was it you? > Your behavior is disrespectful to other people and this weights much > more than any question about free vs. non-free software and you > should learn to understand that even if your are right (what I for > my person do not see) there is simply no excuse and no justification > for violating other persons right to be treated with the respect > every person (with whatever opinion about the topic discussed) > deserves. I am sorry for this. Please tell me how I have disrespected others, so that I may properly apologise. My intention was only to dissent, not to insult anyone. > At this point I will definitely leave this debate and almost regret > having commented on it at all. Please accept my apology again if I have upset you personally. I would like to make amends and not make you feel like I am the only one who is correct. - Jordi G. H. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d _______________________________________________ Octave-dev mailing list Octave-dev@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/octave-dev
