+1 on the human participation piece. Absolutely critical.

On 6/19/07, Matthieu Riou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 6/19/07, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Alex Boisvert wrote:
> > We're open to bringing Tempo under the Apache umbrella if there's
> > sufficient interest.  It would be a good step towards building a
> > more complete BPM solution at Apache.
>
> Personally, I consider support for human participation in workflows to
be
> vital, so I'd be in favor of accepting a contribution to further that
> goal.


I think there's still several pieces missing to get a solid set of BPM
bricks in the ASF. ODE is just the first part but I'd personally like to
see
the following pieces implemented and made to work together:

   - a web service orchestration engine (ODE)
   - human participation (could be Tempo)
   - small footprint, embeddable process execution environment,
   addressing the "programming in the small" set of problems (ala jbpm)

There's much more than that to BPM but that's a lot of work already and we
can't dilute ourselves too much. However I think that's what we should
push
for.

Matthieu

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