Also worth looking at Simply Objects. (http://www.simplyobjects.com.au)

Not tried it but looks very impressive.


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Before (or after) you look at Rose, take a look at Model Maker
(www.delphicase.com). We have used Rose for a while and are frustrated with
it.
Compared to Model Maker (or Together J for Java) Rose is a lot more effort
to
maintain and keep code and model synchronised. With ModelMaker the code
synchronisation is automatic. Rose is a much more comprehensive beast than
model
maker but I use the word beast intentionally :-) To generate and
reverse-engineer Delphi code you will also need another 3rd party add-in to
Rose. Cose was not really an issue for us, but we still use Model Maker over
Rose for our Delphi development. The cost is a fraction of Rose and the
support
turn around is excellent. There is an on-going mailing list that the
developer
of MM takes part in and many of the suggestions made on the list find their
way
into the next release.

hope that helps.

Phil.




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Don't waste your time with Visio - we tried it for a while and well ... it
was a waste of time.  Have a look at Rose - expensive but does the job well
(afterall, they are the ones who came up with UML and gave it away as a
standard).  www.rational.com.

Regards,
Dennis.

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>
> for diagramming take a look at:
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>  http://www.microsoft.com/office/visio/
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> Visio 2000 NFR is now avail for resellers. Don't know the
> price yet though.
>
> regards,
>
> Steve
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> > Hi all,
> >
> > Anyone know any good UML learning resources and also
> > diagramming tools?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Colin
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