Stille use Delphi 3 c/s occassionally Delphi 4 prof normally Like Turbo Pascal/ Delphi - love Borland's overall approach, lot of repect for the they way they have moved generally and the calibre of all of their stuff - still tops in the world in most regards in my oppinion.
But .. As regards future .. some ponderings .. What about another approach ? After the turn around on Delphi 8 not having 32 included, not sure where Borland is going as they could [have secret talks with MS(?) and ] change their minds suddenly again as they did over Delphi 8 ? (Admittedly thay had no choice about the existance and imnplications of .NET) And simillarly, is Kylix's development now in reality dead in the water? PHP 4/5 looking good for ASP alternative all the time, although waiting to see what MS does with its "private low orbit satellite internet" plan, that may create a two tier internet, the MS one fast but not cheap and only working on MS protocols (.net or whatever replaces it in the future release of Windows -- already a paradigm shift has been signaled), and the rest of us and our clients wallowing in the faltering fiber optic/ copper wire mish mash that is left behind . . Remeber that the MS master plan appears to be to be that instead of selling a license to use inperpetutiy, to charge/lease your clients per minute for the use of their MS wordprocessors, OS, Access DBs.. etc, and the plan has never been utterly publically abandoned. IDE-wise IBM (and others) Eclipse' effort looking promissing. Mozilla coming along nicely, as is its opensource ActiveX control development . . aiming to mimick IE in all respects at all levels it seems. Waiting to see if MS finally manage to find the legal angle they long for to ultimately lock out Java, although Java's direct portablilty to Linux makes it interesting if the goal of a fully publically acceptible version/release of Linux were to materialise, or some one with the calibre of Borland went all out and did it . . More people asking about whether I think they would be comfortable with Linux of one sort or another. Open Office on Linux seems to be catching their imaginations since the high profile change over from MS by the State of Bravaria and city of Munich in Germany, and the idea of running it on a free (or near free) OS really grabs small to medium business .. and some people seem to know about the WINE project and simillar options though they are not sure of the details . . however nearly all Tertiary institutes in NZ (and I understand Aussi) are virtual all MS clones, and don't train potential staff (in data entry, wordprocessors etc ..) for these now workplace viable alternatives. -- [Tertiary in NZ seems to have lost its foresight, far seeing pioneering attriubtes, that they were once famous for . . all clogged up and bogged down in PC and Treasury pleasing so on . . where are the firey VC committess of the past?] -- The next major Star/OpenOffice release is supposed to open it up more easily to developers (Delphi or anything). That kind of thing could have huge, I mean huge, implications for savy developers and corporates. For NZ, beyond the non big corporate environments, the average workplace is somewhere around six or so staff I think .. so there is potential there for something unique if someone got into it - there are thousands of such workplaces open to any reasonioble "whole solution" packages (OS etc ..), who at the moment just run off to the store and by MS SB OfficePackages . . they don't really care what the back end is as long as they can effeciently and cost effectively get their results . . However just look at the number of checkout positions on Linux derrivitives already . . If a large group of developers (Aussi / NZ) / consortium could agree on the core components of an open source "whole solution" package to make the comercial servicing and commercial development made under it obvious and viable to the business, educational, and general public(s), it might be possible to actaully create a self sustaining market . . And it could be made sure that Borland products (of course Delphi of one sort or another) were in the loop . . .. sheltering us from some of the worst whims of the USA corporates and their legal system . . . . or would Aussis and Kiwis just be too independant and insecure to pull it off ? China is exploring doing just that for themselves at the moment. Paul A. Norman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nahum.Wild" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'NZ Borland Developers Group - Offtopic List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, 6 August 2004 10:19 a.m. Subject: RE: [DUG-Offtopic] Friday Question > > Forgot to mention that our version of D4 is the Professional edition. So if > there is a competition for the oldest simplist version of delphi in use we > are still winning. :o) > > > Nahum. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Like Magic > > Sent: Friday, 6 August 2004 10:16 a.m. > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'NZ Borland Developers Group - > > OfftopicList' > > Subject: RE: [DUG-Offtopic] Friday Question > > > > Hi, > > Still using Delphi 4 c/s but will be upgrading very shortly > > to d7 for a windows app that needs to update data from the > > net with lots of security. > > Maurice > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nahum.Wild > > Sent: Friday, 6 August 2004 9:55 a.m. > > To: 'NZ Borland Developers Group - Offtopic List' > > Subject: RE: [DUG-Offtopic] Friday Question > > > > > > We use Delphi 4.02! But will be one Delphi 7 in October. > > > > Anyone use anything older commercially? > > > > > > > > Nahum. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Sugrue > > > Sent: Friday, 6 August 2004 09:45 a.m. > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: [DUG-Offtopic] Friday Question > > > > > > On the back of all the responses to Nev's teaser yesterday, I am > > > hoping to start a thread today. > > > > > > My question won't get the grey matter going quite the same > > though ... > > > > > > Anyway, I am asking what version of Delphi you currently > > use and going > > > forward, what do you see yourself using in the future. > > > > > > I use Delphi 7.01 for Win32(Pro) and C# for ASP.NET apps(VS > > > 2003 or Mono-Develop). Going forward I will continue to use > > Delphi for > > > Win32 apps and C# for anything I might do in .NET, which at > > this stage > > > will be ASP.NET. > > > > > > Cheers, have a good Friday. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Offtopic mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://ns3.123.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/offtopic > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Offtopic mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://ns3.123.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/offtopic > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Offtopic mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://ns3.123.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/offtopic > > > > _______________________________________________ > Offtopic mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://ns3.123.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/offtopic _______________________________________________ Offtopic mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ns3.123.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/offtopic
