+1, partly because emulating sun's engineering practice in some ways  
can only be a good thing, but mostly because when one delivers  
something as large as a distro , one needs multiple levels of  
specialization


On 15-Jul-08, at 8:34 AM, Alan Coopersmith <Alan.Coopersmith at Sun.COM>  
wrote:

> Bonnie Corwin wrote:
>> So everything you've said confirms that consolidations are not  
>> special
>> in this discussion.  They are simply large Projects.  They manage  
>> code
>> and they have processes for taking in code.  Projects that deliver  
>> to a
>> larger project don't need to be nested hierarchically or 'owned' by  
>> the
>> larger project.  Projects should simply exist.  Where each chooses to
>> deliver should not be part of a governance discussion.
>
> I believe the only difference between a Project and a Consolidation is
> that a Consolidation is that Consolidations have a specific place in  
> the
> hierarchy of delivering to a product.
>
> I tried last year to define what Consolidations, C-Teams and a W-Team
> were in the OpenSolaris world [1], and we didn't go far with that for
> various reasons - I think now that we've accepted that at least part  
> of
> our collective effort is building a distro or family of distros, we  
> may
> be closer to being able to define this.
>
> So my thoughts on this and the hierarchy are not fully worked out, but
> their current half baked state is something along the lines of this:
>
> - The OGB charters a top-level collective called "The OpenSolaris  
> WOS".
>  This effectively replaces the current Indiana Project collective and
>  will run the W-Team for the OpenSolaris OS.   The W-Team will either
>  charter or adopt other Projects as OpenSolaris Consolidations - these
>  are most likely going to look like the current Consolidations - ON,  
> SFW,
>  Desktop, X, etc.   The W-Team will set the requirements for these
>  Consolidations (ARC review, schedules for delivery to WOS builds,  
> etc.).
>
> - Every project that wants to deliver into "The OpenSolaris WOS"  
> either
>  finds a consolidation to accept it, or applies to the W-Team to  
> become
>  a consolidation itself.
>
> Projects don't necessarily have to be associated with a consolidation,
> especially ones in the experiment and refine stages, that aren't ready
> to deliver.  They don't have to have a governance/hierarchical  
> relationship
> with an existing consolidation - but to get set up, they have to  
> convince
> someone they should be created - that could be a SIG, another  
> Project, or
> the OGB, though we'd prefer most projects not come to the OGB, and  
> would
> try to refer most to a more appropriate group to get started under.
>
> [1] http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/ogb-discuss/2007-July/002109.html
>
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>    -Alan Coopersmith-           alan.coopersmith at sun.com
>     Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering
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