On Feb 12, 2008, at 8:26 PM, John Sonnenschein wrote:
> On 12-Feb-08, at 8:00 PM, Rainer Heilke wrote:
>
>> My thanks to the OGB for following through with this issue, and  
>> for bringing Sun's response to us. Thanks also to Sun for thinking  
>> about this issue and continuing the dialog.
>>
>> I think this is a very positive response from Sun. They have a  
>> need (even a legal responsinility to their shareholders) to  
>> protect their brands and trademarks. That said, they are  
>> expressing a willingness to work with the community to find ways  
>> to share said trademarks in ways that accommodate the community  
>> while not jeopardizing their legal responsibilities.
>>
>> I think item 2 makes it clear that this is, in many ways, a  
>> starting point. Sun is learning as it goes. The second last  
>> paragraph in item 1 states as much, while we all know the incident  
>> mentioned in the last paragraph of item 1 was a faltering step to  
>> many here. But, Sun has invited input in an open forum. While Sun  
>> can't please everyone, they are at least trying and are willing  
>> to, at a bare minimum, listen. That's more than most companies  
>> will do, and is a solid foundation to start building upon.
>
> You got that from the response? All I got from it is "we're calling  
> indiana 'OpenSolaris' to the exclusion of all others, and if you  
> don't like, tough"

Yep, it basically said "piss off", with a few factual inaccuracies  
thrown in
as excuses.

> I found it a very disheartening response from Sun and a total  
> failure to listen & work with the community.

Ditto, though personally I find the lack of response to that response
more disheartening.  The community does not exist as a community.

....Roy

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