On Aug 26, 2008, at 00:21, John Plocher wrote: > Simon Phipps wrote: >> On Aug 26, 2008, at 00:09, John Plocher wrote: >>> Put another way, if a collective thinks someone is a Contributer, >>> who are we to second guess them and say they aren't? >> Because that either >> * sets the bar too high for each collective ("I'd like to have you >> as a moderator of the mailing list, but if I do that I'm >> automatically making you a voting member of the whole community >> and really and truly you only just turned up"), or > > Which is why I argued so heavily for a different "roles/rights" > architecture. Sigh.
But that's not what we have, as I recall because it was too complex. So we need what I'm proposing. > > > >> * sets the bar too low for Plenary Member status. > > I don't believe that this is a real problem. In practice, if > you are trusted enough by the community to be made a Contributer, > and you wish to be a part of the Electorate, you should be more > than qualified to do so. OK, we disagree because I think that's not a reliable assumption. Let's hear some other voices on this key issue (the meaning of "Substantial Contribution" as it applies to Electorate Membership). S.