Peter Tribble wrote:
> I've just had a message trapped in the moderation system. I wasn't
> aware that ogb-discuss had a 40k message size limit.
>
> We've recently had problems with core-contrib-discuss not working
> the way we expected.
>
> Garrett recently commented on the facilitator list about lists bouncing
> messages.
>
> We've got moderated lists; closed lists; policies in place that I wasn't
> aware of. It's all hidden away. Email conversations are the lifeblood
> of our community. Am I justified in feeling uncomfortable not knowing
> what's going on, and only finding out about things reactively when they
> break?
>
>   
Yes, you are justified.  Although the mailman 40k limit is pretty 
typical.   The handling of core-contrib-discuss@ seems a bit weird, though.

I would like to propose to the board that "automatic bounce" 
configuration of mailing lists be prohibited; all mail lists should have 
at least one, and preferably more than one, identified moderator.  If no 
one is able to moderate the list, maybe the list itself isn't that 
important.

There also needs to be a process by which a list which has no active 
moderators can either be reclaimed by someone else who is willing to 
moderate, or decommissioned.  Right now, I don't think there is any such 
process.

IMO, the Board, and the members of the website community, have been far 
to cavalier about the handling of these lists.  I think these mailing 
lists are even more important than the actual web pages -- very little 
actual collaboration happens on the web pages (at least in the 
communities for which I'm a member) -- but a great deal does happen in 
e-mail.

    - Garrett

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