Garrett D'Amore wrote:
> FYI,
>
> I'll start the process to recognize Vincent Wang as a CC of the Device 
> Drivers group.

Looking at this, Vincent *does* have a CC grant for the Device Drivers 
community.  Check it out here:

http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/device_drivers/leaders/

I wish we had an easy way to see when CC grants were expiring....

    -- Garrett
>
>    -- Garret t
>
> John Plocher wrote:
>> The At Large community has been consistently interpreted by the CAB
>> and previous OGB terms as a safety net for people not recognized
>> elsewhere,  not as a stand-in for "everyone who is active in community
>> governance".  We could change that interpretation, but I would rather
>> we did it via a formal OGB proposal, discussion and vote rather than
>> simply as fiat by you as Chair.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Michelle Olson 
>> <michelle.olson at sun.com> wrote:
>>  
>>> There is no valid reason to prevent addition of Contributors to the OGB
>>> simply because they have CC grants in another community.
>>>     
>>
>> I believe there is:
>>
>> The constitution requires that *every* Core Contributor play an active
>> role in the governance of the community, even if they don't want to
>> (which is why we spent so much time last year crafting the
>> constitutional changes to let us have a self-selected Electorate
>> community).   Most of the contributors you mentioned were simply doing
>> their job as CCs of their communities.  These active community members
>> are certainly not falling thru the cracks.
>>
>> You did note, I hope, the +1's I gave to the two people on your list
>> who had not been recognized by their home communities:
>>
>>  
>>> I'd be happy to +1 a couple who aren't recognized elsewhere, but even
>>> for them I have a few questions:
>>>
>>>    
>>>> Deirdre Straughan     developer summit support
>>>>       
>>> +1 (but why here and not Advocacy?)
>>>
>>>    
>>>> Vincent R Wang     facilitation of Device Driver CG grants
>>>>       
>>> +1 (but why here and not in Device Drivers?)
>>>     
>>
>> ... but even there, what is preventing them from being recognized 
>> elsewhere?
>>
>>  
>>> ...  The important piece is to give recognition where it is due
>>>     
>>
>> Absolutely!  Our disconnect is simply about how to show that
>> recognition and appreciation.  I believe that overloading the safety
>> net At Large Contributor designation to mean "A Core Contributor who
>> is doing exactly what we expect Core Contributors to do" is not
>> appropriate or desirable.  Lets talk about ways to better recognize
>> the leaders of well functioning communities and people who play an
>> active role in OS.o community governance in a future OGB meeting!
>>
>>  
>>> Instead you would -1 (unbelievable!) a positive recognition
>>>     
>>
>> Oops, here you are taking my words out of context.  I intentionally
>> prefixed my comments with
>>  
>>> Without casting any aspersions on the excellent
>>> work done by the rest of your list, they all seem
>>> to be already taken care of by their home communities,
>>> where the facilitation or other contributions alluded
>>> to is part of their being leaders there.  As I see their
>>> activities being squarely within the scope of their
>>> existing communities, -1
>>>     
>>
>> Nowhere did I imply that they were not deserving of positive
>> recognition or of praise; I was simply saying that you were using the
>> wrong tool to do provide the recognition.  Making them C's or CC's in
>> the At Large community for doing things that are in the scope of their
>> home communities IMO violates the "activities of the OpenSolaris
>> Community that are not within the scope of any other Community Group"
>> part of the definition of the At Large group.
>>
>>  
>>> my goals to actively reach out to people on the project
>>>     
>>
>> I fully support you in this goal.  We are disagreeing about a possible
>> implementation choice, not the problem statement.
>>
>>   -John
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