On Apr 18, 2009, at 00:51, Rich Teer wrote:

> On Fri, 17 Apr 2009, John Plocher wrote:
>
>> I'd really like to just "get this done", which implies #2, but I fear
>> the voter apathy for a special election will mean E_NO_QUORUM or
>> worse, E_NO_SUPERMAJORITY.  In that case, waiting until 2010 would
>> have been (in hindsight) a better choice.  E_NO_CRYSTAL_BALL....

I can't help thinking we're stuck with the voter apathy whatever  
happens. We just have to get the vote past the finish line and I'm not  
clear why waiting a year makes that easier. In the mean time we either  
have to work to - or ignore - the existing document.

> Perhaps something that might address that is voting on the changes  
> piecemeal,
> rather than all-or-nothing?  But I agree that changing the Charter  
> first
> might be a good idea.

I think we can make some charter changes pretty easily - my view is  
the only thing needed is an explicit vision statement if we adjust the  
language about how the OGB is there to interact with non-individuals.  
I'd also like to put a general "vision statement" back in the draft, I  
think we would've done both anyway if it had been raised before the  
freeze.

I don't think we can make changes piecemeal. The revision is of  
necessity too big for that - every line would be a red-line.

S.


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