On Nov 1, 2007, at 21:14, James Carlson wrote:

> Simon Phipps writes:
>> I don't think accusing a legal fiction gets us anywhere. It lets the
>> actual offenders off the hook without allowing the anger to
>> dissipate. Ultimately all decisions are the responsibility of an
>> actual person. I'll repeat here what I said on osol-discuss:
>
> Amusingly, when the original poster *did* in fact name names in
> response to your request, he was rather quickly reprimanded by another
> contributor for using someone's name in that fashion.

It was his manner that led to the reprimand. He doesn't know what he  
alleged for a fact (and neither do I which is why I am saying  
nothing, although I think I have a pretty short list of  
candidates...) and he alleged it in an over-direct way. Had he made a  
clear, factual and supported statement I can't see why he would have  
had any problems.
>
> I doubt anyone can win here.
>
> Changing it from "Sun" to "Sun executives" might help a bit, but I
> doubt we can grind those words to a fine enough point that nobody is
> upset with the accusation.

I think the OGB /has/ to get to the point where it's naming names  
rather than just accusing "da Man". Otherwise we face a never-ending  
cycle of bad blood and suspicion. Of course, if it turns out the  
individuals involved are indeed acting in bad faith that may happen  
anyway.

S.

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