Philip Brown wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 04:57:40PM -0700, Darren Reed wrote:
>> Philip Brown wrote:
>>> Isnt that what the (previously named?) "CAB" is for?
>> ...
>>
>> How would that be different to the OGB?  No open board-discuss
>> for starters.  Have it function like a real board: meet monthly or
>> quarterly, publish the minutes of the meetings, appoint a chairman,
>> give the board power to make decisions that change opensolaris
>> without needing votes, etc...
> 
> The one trouble with doing stuff politically like that, is that there is
> then a tendancy for those positions to be filled with politicians.
> There need to be rules, but not to the point of needing a 
> "full time politician" to handle it, so to speak.
> 
>>> You cant make everyone happy, all the time.
>>> Obviously, some groups are going to be unhappy to be moved down. Doesnt
>>> mean it shouldnt be done.
>> Yes.  And so long as we allow even one "I disagree" to hold up change,
>> we'll never really accomplish very much at all in a timely fashion.
> 
> The one softening I would like to add to my comments, is a clarification of
> my general principles on that sort of thing.
> 
> "We shouldnt do it because x,y/z" should be carefully considered.
> Whines about, "I dont like it/I dont want to change", should be ignored,
> in my opinion [if the change has long term benefits]
> 
> A single person dissenting, doesnt mean that single person should be
> automatically ignored, though. The more important question is whether the
> dissent is on rational grounds or not.
> (and it then becomes important for the people making that determination, to
>  be both mentally able to discern that, and also to have the commitment and
> integrity to do so. Having a "majority vote" is no substitute for technical
> competance and understanding)
> 
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This discussion would be considerably more interesting, relevant, and 
targeted to the right audience if it were on ogb-discuss..

cheers,
steve

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