Three things: 1. Dan Roberts is a key player from mid-management. Touch base with him.
2. Oracle VPs and Principal Consultants has told 'listening' customers and clients about the future and roadmap of Oracle Solaris, Sun's legacy products, and OpenSolaris. Several public presentation meetings were held during Q1 2010 and beforehand. 3. OGB is just a governing body - IMHO. Ramming a fist down the 'mouth of mules' will only get people's arms bit in the end. 4. Ian Murdoch specifically said that his vision on "Indiana" was the OpenSolaris/Soalris community could take the ON kernel and build their own distros "BASED" from a core OpenSolaris binary distro. As commented in general by some journalists: http://weblogs.java.net/blog/kalali/archive/2010/04/01/another-fud-zdnet-about-opensolaris-fate "People are talking about why the 2010.3 release is not released when it is already first days of April, the answer is "A few more weeks of development and testing will gives us a more stable OS" if you want to check the latest features which will be included in the 2010.3, grab the latest build (which is build 134 right now) from http://www.genunix.org/dist/indiana/ and play with it, but keep it in mind the build is not production ready yet. If you want the source code of OpenSolaris, take a look at http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Main/get to get the source code and build the OS yourself. I am wondering what these people are getting from spreading wrong words and incorrect news about thins they have no clue about. Folks, Solaris OS is not OpenSolaris. OpenSolaris is CCDL licensed (except for some parts which are not CCDLed (http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Main/no_source) while the Solaris distribution contains some of OpenSolaris components and features. some value added components and well along with some license/ distribution fees and first class support from Oracle." So from one standpoint, you have the ON kernel being provided bi-weekly (almost) from Oracle as it was done in the past by Sun. This allowed users/developers to create many 'independent' OpenSolaris distros like the Jaris distro in Japan, Schillix, Milax, Martux, Nexenta, Belenix, EON, AuroraUX, StormOS (Nexenta-based), and a few others. The arguement seems more on a promised release date of the next 'tested' binary release of the OpenSolaris distro from Oracle - than can the OpenSolaris community still provide independent distros bsed on the latest ON kernel + core environment?!? One another standpoint, Oracle has communicated A LOT to their contacts and consumers willing to ask the right questions to the right people within Oracle. Oracle "recently" release their latest presentation notes and speaker information about some of the topics I attended. I can say this because I sat with those Oracle VPs and product managers and had face-to-face meetings. It is VERY clear what Oracle is doing with OpenSolaris, Oracle Solaris, and all of the legacy Sun offerings in hardware and software. The only real action I see on OGB is definitely not acting on 'forking' the main project body - as some users proposed. This is 'suicidal' on many levels - and just SOME people's opinion. There are already OpenSolaris forums 'in the wild' but I'd advise having something under the Oracle sponsorship as well. I'd hope the OGB would focus on engaging Oracle in a very professional way , as in the past, to regain the relationship and feedback from Oracle's sales/marketing and senior management that is needed to govern the community groups and stay the course. I can understand the "hostility" in many users voices - but do consider a mass amount of FUD, inconsistency, and misinformation has spread in various user groups and inner circles. I'll say this to the new OGB - if you feel you are not being communicate to then you are not paying attention or really listening to Oracle (or the community groups). You will provide the OpenSolaris community a great disservice in the end if you follow and act on RUMORS/FUD versus FACTS. I'll use the term "FREE YOUR MINDS" and end this discussion on that note. Arrows commence, Ken Mays -- This message posted from opensolaris.org _______________________________________________ ogb-discuss mailing list ogb-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/ogb-discuss