Alec, please stop attacking me.

While you might not agree with everything I say I have ONLY responded to you 
negatively when you flamed or denigrated a viewpoint that was either valid, 
expressed as an OPINION, or at least worthy of dicussion or consideration.

Alec let me explain something.  Since I began posting to this group early 
this year under the names "Faust the Cynic", "Faust the Unbeliever", and 
(most often) "Faust the Devil's Advocate" I have made it my business to 
intentionally take the devil's advocate position on many of these issues.  I 
am on several boards including two whose memebers long since abandoned this 
list as too "pro WotC".  I make the effort to include their objections in 
our discussion - even some of theirs that are "over the top - because 
whether they feel they belong or NOT, they ARE interested parties for the 
OGL.

I strongly feel that this has contributed positively to the discussion - in 
many cases like it has in this discussion - by bringing those into the 
discussion who have more knowledge, experience, and resources to 
definitively answer some of those questions.

Alec, please stop attacking me.  If you have nothing else to say, at least 
take it off the list and contact me directly.

If you are spoiling for a fight and want to feel important because you put 
in two hours to compose an eloquent and stinging response to somebody's 
offhand opinion, usenet is just a few clicks away.  Go for it.

Faust


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>On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Faustus von Goethe wrote:
>
> > Incidently: In all my discussions I have been referring to a small
> > "Compatible with..." label placed unobtrusively on the box to inform
> > customers and not confuse.
>
>Since many of the topics you have engaged in have directly involved issues
>and claims beyond the "compatible with..." label, this certainly hasn't
>been clear.  In any case, as the discussion of the use of Microsoft's
>logo should have made clear, it is not entirely certain that even your
>proposal would keep you clear of legal problems.  And even if you managed
>to keep the presentation with legally accepted bounds, that doesn't mean
>that the threat of others not doing so isn't real and something that
>anyone wanting to trademark a product & publish under the OGL needs to be
>concern about.
>
>SNIPPED discussion of various legal and illegal activities.
>
> > Our lawyer friends would tell us that this is a stretch because people
> > rarely (if ever) get prosecuted for such a "small crime".  I don't buy 
>that.
>
>Who are you trying to speak for now, me or Clark?  Technically it must be
>Clark, as he's the only lawyer who has engaged in this discussion, but
>given previous attacks you've made on me, perhaps not.  This poor rhetoric
>approach of attempting to make the other side's argument, and doing it in
>an extremely pejorative fashion, is why I previously stated that I didn't
>believe Faustus has engaged in this debate.
>
>For what it's worth, given the extreme factual circumstances described by
>Faustus, _I_ certainly wouldn't call it a stretch that the person Faustus
>described would be prosecuted.  It would still be an extremely difficult
>case to get a conviction on however.
>
>later,
>       alec
>
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