On Tue, 24 Dec 2019 at 12:20, Ralph Versteegen <[email protected]> wrote:
> I never got the email for my svn commit adding 64 bit builds of oggenc and > madplay, so I'll just reply here: > I'm so confused... I never got that email, apparently because it didn't happen! I don't have that commit anymore, even on a git branch, and I don't have the tar file either. It's probably still on my Mac VM, which I don't have access to right now. Someone just reported to me that they can't import .mp3s on Mac OS 10.15. > > Creating statically linked builds of these was quite simple actually: > -install vorbis-tools (includes oggenc) and madplay with Homebrew > (MacPorts would have worked too) to installs all the dependencies > -run otool -L $(which oggenc), etc, to see which libraries the binaries > depend on > -download the source code for those packages, run ./configure > -edit the Makefiles to replace the library link flags with static > libraries, e.g. -logg with /usr/local/.../libogg.a > -I also had to add -lz (libz) to one of the Makefiles to fix a link error > -make > > On Mon, 9 Dec 2019 at 02:16, James Paige <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Actually yes, I think I may need to update that one manually. >> >> I'll do that this morning and then re-trigger the build >> >> On Sun, Dec 8, 2019, 12:37 AM Ralph Versteegen <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Do you need to manually copy distrib-nightly-mac.sh to another location? >>> It doesn't run a copy out of svn? It looks like the distrib-nightly-mac.sh >>> that's being run is pre-r11450. >>> >>> I modified the scripts to the point that I could run them on linux, and >>> they worked fine. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 at 17:49, Ralph Versteegen <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Great, that fixed 32bit hspeak builds. I'm currently investigating the >>>> other problems. >>>> >>>> On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 at 15:31, James Paige <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I renamed both eu.cfg files to eu.cfg.bak >>>>> >>>>> I started the Mac nightly build early, so hopefully we can see the >>>>> results soon >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Dec 7, 2019, 9:09 PM Ralph Versteegen <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ah ha! That is the problem. Those paths in the eu.cfg files are not >>>>>> just vestigal, they are assumed/required install locations. I can only >>>>>> guess that calling euc with a full path rather than just as "euc" causes >>>>>> it >>>>>> to find the eu.cfg file next to the binary? Weird. I remember years ago >>>>>> when I last installed euphoria that the way it treated eu.cfg and EUDIR >>>>>> seemed really broken. >>>>>> I unpacked fresh copies of 4.1.0 and 4.1.0b2 for linux and see they >>>>>> also assume /usr/local/euphoria-4.1.0-Linux-x64/ and /usr/share/euphoria. >>>>>> >>>>>> I actually had deleted the eu.cfg files that came with both the >>>>>> 32-bit and 64-bit builds of euphoria that I'm using. If you do that also, >>>>>> for both installs, it should fix the builds. But then you will not be >>>>>> able >>>>>> to run euphoria manually without setting EUDIR first and/or passing >>>>>> -eudir. >>>>>> So maybe you prefer to fix the paths in the eu.cfg files. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 8 Dec 2019 at 06:23, James Paige <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> There are 4 eu.cfg files, and all of them look like what comes with >>>>>>> the package. Two real ones, and two in the demo/preproc dir. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I checked those /usr/local/euphoria-4.1.0-OSX-x64 and >>>>>>> /usr/share/euphoria paths and neither of them exist. I assume those are >>>>>>> vestiges of whatever system euphoria was built/packaged on. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> loyalist:~ james$ cat misc/euphoria/bin/eu.cfg >>>>>>> [all] >>>>>>> -d E64 >>>>>>> -eudir /usr/local/euphoria-4.1.0-OSX-x64/ >>>>>>> -i /usr/local/euphoria-4.1.0-OSX-x64/include >>>>>>> [translate] >>>>>>> -arch ix86_64 >>>>>>> -gcc >>>>>>> -con >>>>>>> -com /usr/local/euphoria-4.1.0-OSX-x64 >>>>>>> -lib-pic /usr/local/euphoria-4.1.0-OSX-x64/bin/euso.a >>>>>>> -lib /usr/local/euphoria-4.1.0-OSX-x64/bin/eu.a >>>>>>> [bind] >>>>>>> -eub /usr/local/euphoria-4.1.0-OSX-x64/bin/eub >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> loyalist:~ james$ cat misc/eu32/bin/eu.cfg >>>>>>> [all] >>>>>>> -d E32 >>>>>>> -eudir /usr/share/euphoria >>>>>>> -i /usr/share/euphoria/include >>>>>>> [translate] >>>>>>> -arch ix86 >>>>>>> -gcc >>>>>>> -con >>>>>>> -com /usr/share/euphoria >>>>>>> -lib-pic /usr/share/euphoria/bin/euso.a >>>>>>> -lib /usr/share/euphoria/bin/eu.a >>>>>>> [bind] >>>>>>> -eub /usr/share/euphoria/bin/eub >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> loyalist:~ james$ cat misc/euphoria/demo/preproc/eu.cfg >>>>>>> -p etml:etml.ex >>>>>>> -p le,lex:literate.ex >>>>>>> -p dex:datesub.ex:-f %m/%d/%Y >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> loyalist:~ james$ cat misc/eu32/demo/preproc/eu.cfg >>>>>>> -p etml:etml.ex >>>>>>> -p le,lex:literate.ex >>>>>>> -p dex:datesub.ex:-f %m/%d/%Y >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> loyalist:~ james$ cat .bash_profile >>>>>>> export PATH=$PATH:~/misc/fbc-1.06/bin/ >>>>>>> export PATH=$PATH:~/misc/euphoria/bin/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ## >>>>>>> # Your previous /Users/james/.bash_profile file was backed up as >>>>>>> /Users/james/.bash_profile.macports-saved_2017-03-01_at_10:57:22 >>>>>>> ## >>>>>>> >>>>>>> # MacPorts Installer addition on 2017-03-01_at_10:57:22: adding an >>>>>>> appropriate PATH variable for use with MacPorts. >>>>>>> export PATH="/opt/local/bin:/opt/local/sbin:$PATH" >>>>>>> # Finished adapting your PATH environment variable for use with >>>>>>> MacPorts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> loyalist:~ james$ ls -l /usr/local >>>>>>> total 0 >>>>>>> drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 102 Feb 14 2017 remotedesktop >>>>>>> loyalist:~ james$ ls -l /usr/share/euphoria >>>>>>> ls: /usr/share/euphoria: No such file or directory >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 11:19 AM James Paige <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I didn't touch /Users/james/misc/euphoria/ other than executing >>>>>>>> it's copy of euc with --version for verification >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I can search for eu.cfg files and see what I can find >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Dec 7, 2019, 1:17 AM Ralph Versteegen <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, I'm baffled by this error in the build log: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Compiling hspeak >>>>>>>>> Euphoria version 4.1.0 >>>>>>>>> /Users/james/misc/euphoria/bin/euc -con -gcc hspeak.exw -verbose >>>>>>>>> -maxsize 5000 -makefile -build-dir >>>>>>>>> /Users/james/src/nightly/ohrrpgce/wip/build/hspeak -eudir >>>>>>>>> /Users/james/misc/euphoria/ >>>>>>>>> Try '--help' for more information. >>>>>>>>> option 'eudir' must not occur more than once in the command line. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just a few days ago, the build log looked like: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Compiling hspeak >>>>>>>>> Euphoria version 4.1.0 >>>>>>>>> euc -con -gcc hspeak.exw -verbose -maxsize 5000 -makefile >>>>>>>>> -build-dir /Users/james/src/nightly/ohrrpgce/wip/build/hspeak -eudir >>>>>>>>> /Users/james/misc/euphoria/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You didn't make any changes to /Users/james/misc/euphoria/, right? >>>>>>>>> Euphoria can also read additional settings, in particular eudir, from >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> config file called eu.cfg. It's not possible that a stray eu.cfg got >>>>>>>>> created somewhere? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Dec 2019 at 13:45, James Paige <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Aha! Thank you for finding that. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have installed the euphoria 4.1.0 32 bit to the same >>>>>>>>>> /Users/james/misc/eu32/bin/euc location where I had put the older one >>>>>>>>>> previosuly >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 6:32 PM Ralph Versteegen < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I'm saddened to see that the Euphoria devs have done >>>>>>>>>>> nothing in the last 4 years to fix the mess that is download links >>>>>>>>>>> on their >>>>>>>>>>> website/wiki. Much of the site still seems to claim that 4.0.5 is >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> latest version, which made me wonder whether 4.1.0 was ever >>>>>>>>>>> officially >>>>>>>>>>> released. The 32-bit mac 4.1.0 download link is >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/rapideuphoria/files/Euphoria/4.1.0/euphoria-4.1.0-OSX-ix86.tar.gz/download >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I did find a roadmap for 4.2.0 posted on the forums, so it seems >>>>>>>>>>> there is still work happening on Euphoria. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 23:38, James Paige < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, I could not find any Mac 64 but version other than >>>>>>>>>>>> 4.1.0, and I could not find any newer 32 bit version than 4.0.4. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If a 32 bit Mac build of 4.1.0 exists on Euphoria's site, I'll >>>>>>>>>>>> gladly switch to it :) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2019, 11:28 PM Ralph Versteegen < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try it out. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm surprised you installed 4.0.4 instead of 4.1.0, though. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.4 will work fine (I still use 4.0.3 myself) but in future I'm >>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking >>>>>>>>>>>>> of making 4.1.0 a minimum requirement because it adds support for >>>>>>>>>>>>> preprocessors which can be used for much simpler 'dot' member >>>>>>>>>>>>> access syntax. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 15:03, James Paige < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay! I was able to confirm that euphoria 4.1.0 64 bit was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> installed at /Users/james/misc/euphoria/bin/euc >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That one is in the path >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have unpacked euphoria 4.0.4 32 bit at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Users/james/misc/eu32/bin/euc >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not in the path. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know if this works okay! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 3, 2019 at 9:26 PM Ralph Versteegen < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well since the existing 64-bit copy of euc is in the PATH we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't need to know where it is. We only need to pass EUC and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EUDIR to scons >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the other (32-bit) build of euphoria, which should not be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> system-wide, it should just be unpacked somewhere and *not* in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the PATH. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 at 03:45, James Paige < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So for Euphoria on the Mac build VM, we want both 32 and 64 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bit euc, and we just need to know what path they are located >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Honestly I don't remember anything about how I set up euc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there in the first place, so I'll have to find some time for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> detective work >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 3, 2019, 8:40 AM Ralph Versteegen < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I did it and I certainly wouldn't have used XCode! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trying to using a complex IDE that you have no experience >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with is my idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of a nightmare. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wrote some code to scan PATH for 32/64-bit euc, but I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think I'd rather just hardcode the paths into distrib-mac.sh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than add a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch more complexity to SConscript which just amounts to a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kludge, not a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> robust solution. There are already plenty of hardcoded paths >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and URLs in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the nightly build scripts anyway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 at 23:45, James Paige < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I found reports of people saying it couldn't be done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (static oggenc on Mac that is) and one of somebody >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explaining that the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason it couldn't be done is because of a bug that Apple >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had "wontfixed" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years ago. I was assuming they were talking about xcode . I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't read any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deeper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll try to get 32 bit euphoria installed soon. Not sure >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if it will be today. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 3, 2019, 3:51 AM Ralph Versteegen < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You found reports of people failing to build a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statically linked oggenc on Mac? I think I probably did it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using macports. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm also reminded that I was interested in setting up a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cross-compiling toolchain to compile for Mac. I might still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But if we don't have oggenc, then that is what we'll >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have to do. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you also please install a 32-bit Euphoria? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 at 23:45, James Paige < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm... Googled about that a bit... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe on Mac, if oggenc is not detected in the PATH, we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link to a wiki page about importing sound on Mac. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It could suggest installing Audacity, and link to a Mac >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version of it. So people can just save .ogg files from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It could also describe how to install oggenc with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macports or brew if the user wants to go that route. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually figuring out how to build a staticly linked >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command line oggenc where so many others have failed is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over my head, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outside the scope of what I want to attempt. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019, 10:44 PM Ralph Versteegen < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, great. However I don't have any solution to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> madplay/oggenc problem. Either you will have to solve it, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or I'll have to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set up a hackintosh VM (which I probably should do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyway), or we simply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to disable wav import in the mac port. (We could >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allow importing mp3s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again, that's another topic of discussion) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 at 05:59, James Paige < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This all sounds good to me! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have installed all four of those frameworks at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /Library/Frameworks/ on the nightly build mac vm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 9:10 PM Ralph Versteegen < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James, could you please install the following on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac nightly build machine (in either system or user >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Frameworks dir)? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.libsdl.org/projects/SDL_mixer/release/SDL_mixer-1.2.12.dmg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.libsdl.org/projects/SDL_mixer/release/SDL2_mixer-2.0.4.dmg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.libsdl.org/release/SDL-1.2.15.dmg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.libsdl.org/release/SDL2-2.0.10.dmg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think you already should have at least the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SDL.framework and SDL_mixer.framework, but just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> double-checking. Latest >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> versions of both were released 2013-08-17! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Those SDL/SDL_mixer 1.2 frameworks have been built >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as fat binaries, and target OS 10.5+ while we target OS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10.4+, so I guess >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we will continue to package 32-bit .apps with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wip/mac/frameworks.tar.gz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> builds we already have. A alternative build of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SDL.framework for OS 10.4+ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is available but they didn't make one available for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SDL_mixer.framework) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will blindly modify the build scripts to package >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an 64-bit-only gfx_sdl .app, and ask users to test >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether it actually >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works, because I can't. And also an experimental 64-bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gfx_sdl2 build, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though I think that shouldn't become the default until >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after Fufluns. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As I said before, I think a good solution is to have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two different Mac builds: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -32 bit SDL 1.2 for OS 10.4+ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -64 bit SDL 2 for OS 10.6+ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We could then add two different options to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Distribute Game menu. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, we could also create fat binary 32+64-bit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .apps, which are twice the size (OHRRPGCE-Game.app is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently 1.6MB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zipped). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess that we could even package 32-bit gfx_sdl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 64-bit gfx_sdl2 builds into a single .app. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However I think it 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