2009/6/5 Jonathan Gray <[email protected]>: > Brilliant! Yes, this is great Josh!
> I also wonder if you think it could be worth creating a very concise, > 'open government data definition' - which detailed the necessary > additions to OKD as outlined in your essay? I recall in our original discussion here of the 8 principles [1], it was suggested that items 4-8 were probably covered by the Open Knowledge/Data Definition leaving as extra items 1 to 3 which were more about principles or actions the Government should take: [1]: http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/okfn-discuss/2007-December/000673.html <quote> 1. Complete: All public data is made available. Public data is data that is not subject to valid privacy, security or privilege limitations. 2. Primary: Data is as collected at the source, with the highest possible level of granularity, not in aggregate or modified forms. 3. Timely: Data is made available as quickly as necessary to preserve the value of the data. </quote> One extra item that is worth thinking about is how these kind of principles will play outside of the US -- attitudes to Government data in, e.g. European countries, is often rather different than in the States (where we have federal data in the Public Domain by default). For example, item 8 from the original 8 principles saying "data is not subject to any copyright, patent, ..." is simply not true in the UK. Regards, Rufus > On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Josh Tauberer<[email protected]> wrote: >> Yes, I think you're right. I'll keep this in mind for the next version. >> >> Thanks. >> >> - Josh Tauberer >> - GovTrack.us >> >> http://razor.occams.info >> >> "Yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation! Yields >> falsehood when preceded by its quotation!" Achilles to >> Tortoise (in "Godel, Escher, Bach" by Douglas Hofstadter) >> >> On 05/19/2009 01:53 PM, Jonathan Gray wrote: >>> >>> This looks great Josh! >>> >>> I wonder if there's any way you would consider alluding to the OKD in >>> the body of the text, as well as towards the end? >>> >>> E.g. by saying OKD compliance is a necessary but not sufficient >>> condition for open government data? >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Josh Tauberer<[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, all. I'm sorry I haven't had the time to say much here, though I've >>>> tried to watch the progress. Over the last several months I've been >>>> writing >>>> an essay- >>>> >>>> Open Data is Civic Capital: Best Practices for "Open Government Data" >>>> http://razor.occams.info/pubdocs/opendataciviccapital.html >>>> >>>> -which addresses a small portion of the issues that have come up in this >>>> group, so I thought I would share it here. The motivation to write this >>>> started at Transparency Camp [1] a few months ago, and at the end of the >>>> conference Gunnar Hellekson of Red Hat, and later I, decided to take on >>>> the >>>> project of bringing together a repository of best-practices guides for >>>> technology’s role in an open government. (We have a wiki page for the >>>> project [2] which lists some of the guides we’d like to see written.) >>>> >>>> The goal of Open Data is Civic Capital was 1) to motivate why open >>>> government data isn’t just an ideological issue but actually makes >>>> society >>>> more powerful, and can really make the world a better place, and 2) to >>>> outline some suggested priorities and recommendations for open government >>>> data, drawing on the recommendations of a number of past groups. The >>>> essay >>>> begins: >>>> >>>> “Creating a well-informed public is a core value of representative >>>> government. It is a prerequisite for ensuring the best representatives >>>> are >>>> elected and a crucial component of government oversight—as well as being >>>> important in areas well beyond civics. This document speaks to why public >>>> government data (also called ‘public sector information’) is a valuable >>>> resource to society if put on the Web and shared freely with the public, >>>> and >>>> discusses how to go about doing it. We discuss technological >>>> considerations >>>> and end with sixteen guiding principles for best practices in open >>>> government data.” >>>> >>>> Hopefully you find this useful/informative (as opposed to spam :-). >>>> >>>> [1] http://transparencycamp.org/ >>>> [2] http://wiki.opengovdata.org/index.php/Best_Practices >>>> >>>> -- >>>> - Josh Tauberer >>>> - GovTrack.us >>>> >>>> http://razor.occams.info >>>> >>>> "Yields falsehood when preceded by its quotation! Yields >>>> falsehood when preceded by its quotation!" Achilles to >>>> Tortoise (in "Godel, Escher, Bach" by Douglas Hofstadter) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > -- > Jonathan Gray > > Community Coordinator > The Open Knowledge Foundation > http://www.okfn.org > > _______________________________________________ > okfn-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.okfn.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/okfn-discuss > _______________________________________________ okfn-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.okfn.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/okfn-discuss
