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best regards Em 16-04-2014 10:37, Samuel Goëta escreveu: > Hi everyone, > > I was less connected for the last few days and I am quite astonished <https://twitter.com/samgoeta/status/456409840726704129> by the new identity. I share most concerns already expressed so I will be short, it's difficult to follow. > > I would like to share a less-addressed concern about the new okfn.org <http://okfn.org>. Could we just agree first on the identity and then launch a new website? Also the new okfn.org <http://okfn.org> does not mean much if we don't know the whole OKF strategy which is I believe currently drafted. > > To me, the new okfn.org <http://okfn.org> (besides already what was already expressed on identity): > - does not explain *what Open Knowledge actually is*! Stating the summarized open definition on the homepage would be a good thing. > - *emphasizes* too much on *services* offered by OKF Central > - does not present any of our *projects* (what we do is part of what we are): CKAN, School of Data, Public Domain Review, Open Spending, Open Definition, Open Data Index, Textus? I could not find them on the new website! > - is actually quite good in the last section to *explain the benefits* of open knowledge > - misses *action calls* besides just signing up to the newsletter > > Can we discuss about the website issue at the next community call? > > Thanks > > Best > > Sam > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:49 PM, Aaron Wolf <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Rob Myers <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > "sharing" is > rapidly becoming a synonym for renting > > > I don't know this to be true at all. Just because some people are abusing the term doesn't mean that much. Most of your critique is just negative discounting of my proposal. I don't really care whether *my* proposal is used, but "change the world" is as vacuous and overused as anything out there, and the effect of "Data" on changing the world could be as negative as it is positive depending upon what the data is and who controls it. It is imperative that it be clear *what direction* we are proposing that the change go. > > "See How Data Can Change The World" is *too* focused, that's the point all along. Less focused is the goal here. We want the focus to be about empowering the world's citizens, not about Big Data controlling us, we want the focus to be broader, not about venerating Data as the primary or only focus of Openness. > > Big Data is a reality today whether we like it or not. The OKF needn't exist just to promote data itself. The point has to be about promoting specifically Open data over restricted data controlled by governments and corporations. The point of "Open Knowledge" overall is for that same Openness to be applied to many things. The Openness and empowerment of people is the goal, whether we apply the values of openness to data or to art or to educational resources etc. > > If the OKF is to be strictly a data-focused organization, it should become the Open Data Foundation, and people who don't care about data as much can just be tangential supporters. There is a big decision here about focus, and it appears that when questioned nobody is suggesting that it really become the Open Data Foundation, although that honestly could be a reasonable direction for various reasons. But it either should embrace that or work to be inclusive of other areas. Either you focus or you don't. Don't pretend to be inclusive but actually neglect areas outside of a certain focus. > > I see no problem with including the word "free" in things that refer to Open. I'm not insisting on it either, but I completely reject the idea that inclusion of other terms is inherently problematic. > > -- > Aaron Wolf > wolftune.com <http://wolftune.com/> > > _______________________________________________ > okfn-discuss mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-discuss > Unsubscribe: https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/okfn-discuss > > > > > _______________________________________________ > okfn-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-discuss > Unsubscribe: https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/okfn-discuss -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iJwEAQECAAYFAlNO3JoACgkQPmKhjS+j9x4hMgQAsjZjCwodbDSEehd2q0YBPnSe V7JIaTRw/rl3+0RGd4mQSI7MHVpd3m0/md2L6CPmr+RLt7/FR+lcqTZ7QshPPdMT DTPXImrAJwFFfYmNaPWjPiop+rY6CIXe01mJKi5tUQZNunSHBXav55MwXk+IJz2a pGN6qu0m1Ev4EO60EVA= =mauw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ okfn-discuss mailing list [email protected] https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-discuss Unsubscribe: https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/okfn-discuss
