I think we've got two types of "units" being discussed here. One is  
the actual sections of the book, as defined by the publisher or  
organizer: chapters, table of contents, index, bibliography... etc.  
Those should be the same for every instance of the book. The other is  
a way to "bookmark" any part of the text in an ad hoc manner. This is  
NOT universal, and anyone can create a new bookmark to suit their needs.

It might help to explore them separately.

kc

Quoting Mike McCabe <mcc...@archive.org>:

> John -
>
> We'd love to have something like this!
>
> For now, the closest thing we have is our BookReader URLs, which easily
> allow linking to a specific page.
>
> What you're describing sounds a lot like the Open Bookmarks project -
>
> http://www.openbookmarks.org/
>
> ... which we're participating in.  The goal is to have a way of marking
> a spot or range of text in any book (edition or work) - no matter what
> the format or vendor.
>
> The New York times allows building links that include highlighted text;
> Open Bookmarks might end up doing something similar.
>
> http://open.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/11/emphasis-update-and-source/#h[AltBau,2]
>
> (this highlights the second sentence in the paragraph beginning
> '(A)nchor (l)inks (to)...' and ending '(B)ut (a)s (u)sual...' - thus
> 'AltBau')
>
> Open Bookmarks has an open mailing list - feel free to join!
>
> Mike
>
>
> On 2/1/11 1:34 PM, John & Diane Sumsion wrote:
>> I've wanted to link to pages of books, or at least down to the
>> chapter, or subhead.
>>
>> Take, for example, the following blog post:
>>
>>    http://deliberate-thinking.blogspot.com/2010/04/reality-quotient.html
>>
>> In that post, I refer to printed, copyrighted content by URL, but with
>> lame google books URLs that have nothing to do with the structure of
>> the book, and that border on the potentially problematic situation
>> traditionally called "deep linking".
>>
>> Look for the following text in the blog post:
>> - text: Demarco's "Total Useful Mental Discriminations (TUMD)"
>>    and link:  
>> http://books.google.com/books?id=563gvssRPvkC&lpg=PR1&dq=slack&pg=PA72#v=onepage
>> - text: how capable you are
>>    and link:  
>> http://books.google.com/books?id=31Qe_e61Y10C&lpg=PP1&ots=bBbef5O2a3&dq=speed%20of%20trust&pg=PA185#v=onepage
>>
>> Is there any way that I could (for a given Work, or Edition), add a
>> list of URLs that are just markers for the sections within a book.
>> Not page linking, but sections as defined by the work itself.  No
>> content extraction except perhaps to put the subhead text in the URL
>> itself (either in English, or in the Work/Edition's native language,
>> or both).  Now there would be a global permalink for a given chunk of
>> a work.
>>
>> The closest think I found was OpenLibrary itself with canonical URLs
>> to Works and Editions, so I thought if anyone knew, you all would.
>>
>> Does anything like that exist?
>>
>> If not, have you thought about allowing your users to define and
>> curate sections for Works/Editions that could be treated as
>> permalinks?
>>
>> John...
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