The same could be done with Wikidata, connecting not only to author
records, but also with works and editions records.
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Books_task_force

An example of a work with several editions:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6911

We already have Viaf identifiers, so connecting authors should be easy
(provided the identifier exists in both databases).

One question: Is there any url that can be used both for works (ex
OL2931460W) and editions (ex. OL6110293M)? Or do we have to use different
roots to generate the links? I see that there are three types
http://openlibrary.org/works/
http://openlibrary.org/books/
http://openlibrary.org/authors/

But I don't know if internally you have something that would represent the
three, like:
http://openlibrary.org/entity/

Cheers,
Micru


On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Ben Companjen <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi Richard,
>
> On 31 August 2013 10:47, Richard Light <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I'll chip in here, rather than adding to your page, because I would like
> to
> > get some feedback from the list as to whether I'm out on a limb here
> (given
> > the lack of response to my last couple of posts).
>
> Not trying to be annoying, but I only found one recent post by you,
> which got response on the ol-tech list (since the topic was a bit
> technical).
> >
> > I would like the author information in OL to be better, and to be
> > better-connected.  Authors are people too (allegedly) and they offer a
> > possibility, maybe the only possibility, of cross-linking OL to other
> > (non-bibliographic) Linked Data resources.  Obviously there's a trade-off
> > here, in that we don't want to put contributors off by being too
> demanding,
> > but:
>
> Authors in OL may also be corporate entities (government bodies,
> corporations, NGOs), conferences or group pseudonyms (although those
> are more rare). There is no difference in the data yet, except for a
> few records.
> >
> > the RDF provided for authors could make better use of the information
> > currently available. For a start, it should include a list of "is author
> of
> > X" statements to link them to their works within OL.
> Agreed. In the Work RDF there are links to Editions, so it's possible.
> I already proposed some changes to the RDF output some time ago:
> https://github.com/internetarchive/openlibrary/pull/136 but this was
> not in it.
>
> > It should also include
> > Wikipedia identifiers where these are present in the data
>
> By 'identifiers', did you mean URLs? There are Wikipedia URLs
> ("Links") for some people. Some records include a special "wikipedia"
> field.
> > with a little gentle encouragement, we could make the author birth and
> death
> > date information usable in a machine-processing sense. Most dates are
> > already useful as entered, despite the lack of guidelines
> > we could enable the (structured) recording of place of birth and death.
> > There are a handful of these in the data already, crammed in on the end
> of
> > the date field
>
> A bot should try to parse the dates and put these in the records in a
> separate field (e.g. "date_of_birth_parsed"). The contents of this
> field can then be transformed to an xsd:date value in RDF.
> >
> > Author names could be looked up on dbpedia, and if there is an existing
> > entry (a) the link can be included in the OL data and (b) details like
> > DoB/PoB can be copied from that source into the OL data.
>
> It is debatable whether that is allowed in accordance with the
> CC-BY-SA licence that Wikipedia and DBpedia use, although we're not
> too strict on the enforcement and don't use a less strict licence on
> the OL data. Looking up a name in DBpedia could be challenging, but
> experimenting is easy when you already have both datasets downloaded
> in dump files.
> >
> > Richard
>
> Ben
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