On Thu, 22 May 2008, Richard Lowe wrote: > Valerie Bubb Fenwick <Valerie.Fenwick at Sun.COM> writes: > >> On Wed, 21 May 2008, Ghee Teo wrote: > >>> - Black box thinking: What are the things we need to do to remove the need >>> of >>> moderator? >>> For as long as we need a moderator, the process just would scale. >> >> I'm not sure what you mean here? we have a moderator for the sponsor >> process, >> but that's mostly to keep us in line internally :) Once we move the gate >> outside the firewall, we won't need the sponsor process or the moderator. > > While I'm aware Val knows this, I think it's probably best to be clear > here. > > The above paragraph of Val's is incorrect on various levels, if read > literally. > > - The sponsor process needs to exist either way. > - There is (far) more to fixing this than merely changing where the > gate is located.
Actually, as far as I know, we are not planning on continuing the sponsor process after the gate is outside the firewall. I think you might be confusing mentoring with sponsoring. We currently provide mentoring for internal folks, who can do their own putback but will likely have a lot of questions along the way. The sponsor process is just so folks who can't currently type "putback" can actually still contribute. :) Now we may decide that after we no longer have "sponsors" that we want to set up a more "official" mentoring program to make it more accessible to those outside of the company. Currently, we often find our mentors by talking to someone else on our team or down the hall - clearly, a nonstarter for external folks. In general, I think that the interest aliases, like network-discuss or security-discuss, can serve that purpose, but I would be open to something else. For example, right now sponsors have to be Sun employees - in the future, I would hope that non Sun employees may be even able to mentor a new Sun employee to help them get started in ON. This conversation (above) had turned into wondering why we don't just take diffs & integrate them w/out all the process we currently require in ON. (ON being the consolidation with the most burdensome processes, as far as I can tell). Valerie -- Valerie Fenwick, http://blogs.sun.com/bubbva Solaris Security Technologies, Developer, Sun Microsystems, Inc. 17 Network Circle, Menlo Park, CA, 94025. 650-786-0461
