Shawn Walker wrote: > C. Bergstr?m wrote: >> Shawn Walker wrote: >>> C. Bergstr?m wrote: >>> >>> If have no idea why you think you can't do all of that using >>> opensolaris.org, but good luck. >> I emailed about having the ml created here and was told I needed to >> start a project. >> >> I read the instructions at [1] and in all honestly probably should >> have used opensolaris.org infra, but either way we'll be self hosting >> in the near future. A leader from the Perl community who has shown >> interest in our project thankfully set it up within minutes. I can >> think of reasons why not use opensolaris.org || sun.com , but maybe >> there's some reason I should that I missed? > > There are a number of community groups here that would be more than > happy to sponsor such a project, but you may not be aware that we > already have a group of people working hard to ensure that the > barriers to contribution are low, and that the process goes as quickly > as possible. > > I would invite you to share your concerns with John Sonnenschein as he > is one of the members of that team working to ensure community > contributions happen quickly and efficiently. Discussing your > concerns and project goals with him will either help you discover > where your goals overlap or give you an opportunity to work with the > team he is on to help the community. > > Ultimately, I think the best reason to not set up another mailing list > or website somewhere else is to avoid the fragmentation of community > efforts. However, this is an open project, so you are completely free > to pursue your own dreams and goals as you desire to. > Ok.. I'm going to hit the little red button on this..
1) I've had some brief discussions with those involed on the tonic team and while I hear lots of things about bugzilla being able to accept patches blah blah.. When will it happen? I think in general you guys really miss the boat on what it means to build a community. While I have no idea if Ian M. is the best person to help with this effort I wonder who would be... 2) I think community fragmentation under the current system is unavoidable. If it wasn't there wouldn't be.. Belenix, ShilliX, Milax, Nexenta and gosh... the list seems to grow every day.. I've talked withs some of the lead developers in great depth and noticed a common thread between them all. My gut feeling is that any attempt to solve the problem would piss more people off than accomplish anything. 3) Based on who I see already subscribed to the new list I'm guessing those who != @Sun thought it wasn't too bad of an idea. From what you write I see it like saying genunix is bad because it causes fragmentation.. I hope in the very near future to be able to offer custom developer zones, blogging platform and overall something more than just an easy place to drop a patch, but something people can watch grow and be a part of. I'm not referring to you at all Shawn, but in general It seems those in power are more worried about staying in power than actually being supportive in some cases. ./C
