I don’t really understand the question but the model is you deploy a service and that service can have one or more vnfs and each vnf can have one or more virtual functions.
Thanks, Daniel Rose ECOMP / ONAP com.att.ecomp 732-420-7308 From: Viswa KSP [mailto:kspviswa.git...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 11:44 AM To: ROSE, DANIEL V <dr6...@att.com> Cc: Dhananjay Pavgi <dp00476...@techmahindra.com>; onap-discuss@lists.onap.org Subject: Re: [onap-discuss] Why there is a manual step before deploying a distributed / certified network service? Thanks a lot. A little more... During SDC design phase, we start out by creating a VSP ( Vendor Software Product ) and then import VSP to create VF ( Virtual Function ). Then using "Create Network Service ", we combine multiple VF to generate a Network Service ( NS ) in SDC, which are then certified, approved & distributed. While NS is already created in design time, where there is an additional step of creating VNF ( Virtual Network Function ) in VID component. BR, Viswa On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 8:30 PM, ROSE, DANIEL V <dr6...@att.com<mailto:dr6...@att.com>> wrote: Hi, 1. It is a customer. I don’t know what NS is but aai does hold relationships. 2. The model is very confusingly named amongst different systems. Vf aka vfmodule is the smallest deployable piece of a vnf. Vnf is a single virtual function. Service aka service instance can have multiple vnfs 3. Robot vm is not letting aai know about the asdc models, those are done during distribution in the asdc gui. Aai listens to dmaap for info on distributed models. Robot vm does have test cases to do them but you don’t to do them through robot. Robot’s init command in demo.sh does need to let aai know about open stack regions, tenants etc. That’s because those are not created as part of an onap spin up. You could build a gui or something to do it but its not something you need to do for every vnf installation. 4. I attached the email where I described the cloud config file. LCP Region is equivalent to openstack region ie something like IAD or DFW in Rackspace. Thanks, Daniel Rose ECOMP / ONAP com.att.ecomp 732-420-7308 From: Viswa KSP [mailto:kspviswa.git...@gmail.com<mailto:kspviswa.git...@gmail.com>] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 9:35 AM To: ROSE, DANIEL V <dr6...@att.com<mailto:dr6...@att.com>> Cc: Dhananjay Pavgi <dp00476...@techmahindra.com<mailto:dp00476...@techmahindra.com>>; onap-discuss@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-discuss@lists.onap.org> Subject: Re: [onap-discuss] Why there is a manual step before deploying a distributed / certified network service? Thanks Daniel. Could you please clarify some of my follow-up queries: 1. Could you help me with the notion of "Subscribers" ? Why & for what use-case? * Would AAI hold this information of what subscribers are connected to which instance of NS ? * Can multiple subscribers share same NS? Would this information be exported / connected to external systems like accounting / BSS ? 1. Moreover, I would like to understand the difference between Virtual Network Function ( during deploy time at VID ) and Virtual Function ( during design time at SDC ). Why there is another layer called VNF on top of VF ? 2. Robot-VM is actually doing many stuffs including letting AAI know about the SDC models and letting AAI know about Openstack tenant details ( by using APIs ). Is there any WIP to automate the same? * Why there is no communication b/w SDC and AAI, as soon a network service / VF is certified & distributed by operator? 1. On a separate thread, Catherine had mentioned that, there is a file called cloud-config.json which can be used to specify regions / tenants within openstack. I believe that is for MSO. If I want to deploy NS on selected region / tenant in VID, how am I supposed to achieve it? * I also see something termed as "LCP region". Could you please explain more about this or Please point me to some resource in Wiki where I can read more about this. BR, Viswa On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 11:29 PM, ROSE, DANIEL V <dr6...@att.com<mailto:dr6...@att.com>> wrote: To Dhananjay, 1. For configuration of devices yes, but the demos don’t use them because the virtual functions are not configured they are hard coded. A real vnf would need to have yang. 2. For the demos, nothing. 3. 3a is a one time thing, it does stuff like populate vim stuff (region and tenant) the expectation in a real cloud is youd fill those in as regions are created. It also creates a subscriber which is basically a customer and would presumably be done upstream in a bss / oss / wherever when they are first created. 3b, 3c and 3e I think there is an enhancement in the works to allow the whole thing to be instantiated at once, mso can confirm. It may already be possible, since we do have the model we know the steps of everything. 3d is a bit of an odd child, its data that is needed to complete the instantiation but which is not provided in the model. Internally we use external systems for a lot of it (ipam etc) and the preload is just what is left of that. The rebase we are testing now should remove the need for this as this info is asked for in vid. 3f mso will do, there is a story open for that. 4. 3b, 3c, 3e are already done in SO (nee MSO), 3a is outside process (you don’t create tenants in openstack when calling nova create server for instance) and 3d and 3f are temporary things that should be going away soon. To Viswa, This decomposition is already done, just not shown in the demo so well, the model and the SO do know the order. And MSO is involved (see response to Dhananjay above). Thanks, Daniel Rose ECOMP / ONAP com.att.ecomp 732-420-7308 From: Viswa KSP [mailto:kspviswa.git...@gmail.com<mailto:kspviswa.git...@gmail.com>] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 1:43 PM To: Dhananjay Pavgi <dp00476...@techmahindra.com<mailto:dp00476...@techmahindra.com>> Cc: onap-discuss@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-discuss@lists.onap.org>; ROSE, DANIEL V <dr6...@att.com<mailto:dr6...@att.com>> Subject: RE: [onap-discuss] Why there is a manual step before deploying a distributed / certified network service? Thanks Daniel. I do have a follow up query. Adding to what Dhananjay has quoted, should the decomposition of network service be taken care automatically by service orchestrator ? If we see Open -O or XOS/CORD, the story remains same . We provide NSD and the master orchestrator takes the burden of decomposing network service requirements, identify dependencies w.r.t infrastructure ( NF -O ) and network ( SDN-O ) , along with life cycle work flow. Is there any reason ( architectururaly ) , why MSO isn't involved here ? BR, Viswa On Jun 1, 2017 9:47 PM, "Dhananjay Pavgi" <dp00476...@techmahindra.com<mailto:dp00476...@techmahindra.com>> wrote: Thanks, Daniel. Few related questions as below: 1. When it comes to “Service Instantiation” on VNFs; don’t we need Yang models. 2. i.e. what does finally SDNC send as a payload over Netconf? 3. Also, our understanding of APIs being called is as below (which is right now manual activity in vFW demo): a. Run demo.sh init script (We will share these details but essentially it invokes AAI REST APIs) b. Service Instance Create c. VNF Create d. Run demo.sh preload (We will share these details but essentially it invokes SDNC REST APIs) e. VF Module Create f. Run demo.sh appc script (We will share these details but essentially it invokes APPC REST APIs) 4. 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To give you an example, preload command calls sdnc rest api that loads info like IPs to sdnc so that when you go to vid and instantiate a vnf sdnc knows what data to use. You can call that api yourself to fill in your specific parameters for ANY vnf ( you can add a call to the DG to make a call out to any external system via rest instead of doing the preload also). In the rebase code VID has the option to provide those preloads as part of the GUI to make it a bit easier but even though the flow changes the fact that it applies to all VNFs does not change. Thanks, Daniel Rose ECOMP / ONAP com.att.ecomp 732-420-7308 From: onap-discuss-boun...@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-discuss-boun...@lists.onap.org> [mailto:onap-discuss-boun...@lists.onap.org] On Behalf Of Viswa KSP Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 4:50 AM To: onap-discuss@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-discuss@lists.onap.org> Subject: [onap-discuss] Why there is a manual step before deploying a distributed / certified network service? Dear All, We are trying to follow the steps as per tutorial to bring demo vFirewall Network service. While the steps before deploy operation ( i.e creation of license model, design-test-certify cycle for VSP, VF & NS and finally distributing NS for production ) seems to be generic & acceptable for other VNFs, the step for running demo.sh in robot VM to enable "Deploy" in VID seems to very specific to vFirewall NS. I would like to understand if this manual step is expected in any other NS? What if we wanna customize the work-flow i.e say I want to just design my NS and just deploy it right away ( without other steps as per demo work-flow ) , how should I go-about in achieving this? On a very high-level, I would like to know how much we can customize ONAP ? 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Sorry I was on my phone so I was recalling from memory. It is called cloud_config.json and here is how it is built: https://gerrit.onap.org/r/gitweb?p=mso/mso-config.git;a=blob;f=templates/default/mso-po-adapter-config/cloud_config.json;h=41586c169961da6ec08a6da1008863e3c2f0d07d;hb=refs/heads/release-1.0.0<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gerrit.onap.org_r_gitweb-3Fp-3Dmso_mso-2Dconfig.git-3Ba-3Dblob-3Bf-3Dtemplates_default_mso-2Dpo-2Dadapter-2Dconfig_cloud-5Fconfig.json-3Bh-3D41586c169961da6ec08a6da1008863e3c2f0d07d-3Bhb-3Drefs_heads_release-2D1.0.0&d=DwMFaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=2wwdGZ3YcpSivQ2Kio028A&m=xjdHiYWW5-dpZrd78bc2CuvyAXxSFyxrERzxIykl6L4&s=xSH0Qdcc63hcSoFpwXqvCDzJ8v1tOP4_1UTHSOTPgsc&e=> It is not exposed as a gui right now. I imagine some enhancement to this mechanism to allow ease of addition and removal of regions will take place but all the functionalities you are requesting is there. Thanks, Daniel Rose ECOMP / ONAP com.att.ecomp 732-420-7308 From: Viswa KSP [mailto:kspviswa.git...@gmail.com<mailto:kspviswa.git...@gmail.com>] Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 6:04 AM To: ROSE, DANIEL V <dr6...@att.com<mailto:dr6...@att.com>> Cc: onap-discuss@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-discuss@lists.onap.org> Subject: Re: [onap-discuss] Does ONAP support Multi-tenant Openstack deployment? Hi Daniel, Thanks for heads-up. I tried to read more details about lcp in MSO here ( https://wiki.onap.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=1015834<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.onap.org_pages_viewpage.action-3FpageId-3D1015834&d=DwMFaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=2wwdGZ3YcpSivQ2Kio028A&m=punNSpuxdfdye7MHPgaHkL0bUO7SCcsl6CAPrLSmuuE&s=wdR4pFLpJsuZWSrIxj-YGPc_HKWtttDacS_AeAcFjqo&e=> ) in architecture page, but I couldn't find any. Could you please point me to right resource? Basically I'm looking for a config page, where I can add multiple cloud accounts and name it, such that I choose one during instantiation / deployment. I would like to try on-board a in-house VNF in ONAP in separate tenant space. Is there any working group / team working on this item? BR, Viswa On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 12:07 AM, ROSE, DANIEL V <dr6...@att.com<mailto:dr6...@att.com>> wrote: Onap supports multi tenant deployment as well as multisite. That is the onap franework can be installed in one tenant or site while the vnfs are deployed on another. We also have the ability to have regions and/or tenants for vnf deployement. This is defined by something call lcp in mso and there is a clouds.yaml that holds all these combinations. The heat template we put out for the demo does not however have the full capabilities exposed as its meant to be a simple tutorial On May 29, 2017, at 2:19 PM, Viswa KSP <kspviswa.git...@gmail.com<mailto:kspviswa.git...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello, I would like to know if ONAP supports multi-tenant deployment model. If yes, please point me to configuration guide accordingly. More details: If you look at other ETSI compliant NFV-Os like OSM, OpenBaton, there is a specific configuration step, where-in we will have to specify a VIM account with tenant name, keystone URL. mgmt IP etc. This space will be used by the orchestra tor during deployment. While instantiating a NSD, we can dynamically at run-time specify which VIM account to use. While I understand that ONAP currently not multi-vim complaint ( only supported with Openstack ), I would like to know if multi-tenant model is supported. Assume I have 2 tenant spaces ( in 2 different openstack sites - to complicate the problem statement further ) and I would like to instantiate service 1 in tenant 1 and service 2 in tenant 2, how should I go about in realising this requirement? BR, Viswa _______________________________________________ onap-discuss mailing list onap-discuss@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-discuss@lists.onap.org> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.onap.org_mailman_listinfo_onap-2Ddiscuss&d=DwICAg&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=2wwdGZ3YcpSivQ2Kio028A&m=8aOVDebX_cac4i_WaD2VI1ZaKYZWTLkLffNt5I5HUgo&s=MSoC0S256pAGmVajoRWmhow6Wr-4B4vNBOr0W_ffXgE&e=
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