Thank you Kenny for initiating this conversation and for outlining many of
the choices. I agree that we should have on a common approach to addressing vacancies in the TSC. I've listed some options below. I suggest that we 1) agree if these are the right options, and 2) conduct a vote to determine which option the TSC favors. Once that decision is made, the updates to the charter language can be drafted and approved by the TSC. Operator-reserved seats 1. Vacated seat remains vacant until next election 2. Vacated member's company can assign a replacement note: need to agree on who in the company can make that decision 3. New election for vacated seat initiated within 30 days of seat being vacated note: this would apply if multiple candidates might run from that operator, since only members from that operator would be eligible for the vacated seat Variation A: If vacancy occurs within 90 days of end of the member's term, seat will remain vacant until next election Non-reserved seats 1. Vacated seat remains vacant until next election 2. New election for vacated seat initiated within 30 days of seat being vacated Variation A: If vacancy occurs within 90 days of end of the member's term, seat will remain vacant until next election Variation B: If vacancy occurs within 60 days after a full TSC election, the runner-up shall be assigned the seat My commentary: For operator-reserved seats, I'm open to either assigning a replacement (option 2, if we can agree on who would do that - vacating member? LFN Board member?) or holding an election (option 3 with variation A) if we really think multiple people from one operator would run. For non-reserved seats, I'm in favor of Option 2 with variation A. As Kenny stated, assigning the runner-up is unfair in a system that limits seats to one-per-company (since a qualified candidate maybe didn't run in lieu of someone else from that company already running). Please respond if you think there are options not covered here. Regards, Jason Hunt Distinguished Engineer, IBM Phone: 314-749-7422 Email: djh...@us.ibm.com Twitter: @DJHunt From: "Alexis de Talhouet" <adetalhoue...@gmail.com> To: ONAP-TSC@lists.onap.org Date: 09/23/2018 03:49 PM Subject: Re: [onap-tsc] TSC Seat Vanacy Sent by: ONAP-TSC@lists.onap.org What happened in such scenario within the OpenDaylight community was to have the next runner appointed as the new TSC member, given previous election was very recent. Anyhow, I echo Frank’s point that it’s important current TSC come up with a way to handle such case, and that the TSC amends the charter. Regards, Alexis On Sep 23, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Alla Goldner <alla.gold...@amdocs.com> wrote: +1 Sent from Nine From: "Frank Brockners via Lists.Onap.Org" < fbrockne=cisco....@lists.onap.org> Sent: Sunday, 23 September 2018 19:19 To: ONAP-TSC@lists.onap.org Subject: Re: [onap-tsc] TSC Seat Vanacy Hi Kenny, Thanks for the summary. As a community member, I’d prefer if the TSC would quickly amend the current charter to cover the case of TSC members stepping down from their role. Any other approach would be a shot from the hip – and might be in conflict to the ultimate policy that the TSC would come up with. The amendment should cover the considerations that you list below, especially the fact that the TSC now consists of elected members and not representatives of parties, companies, etc. In that, a TSC differs from most of the parliaments, where members often represent parties, so that successors are automatically picked from a list. Regards, Frank From: ONAP-TSC@lists.onap.org <ONAP-TSC@lists.onap.org> On Behalf Of Kenny Paul Sent: Sonntag, 23. September 2018 18:43 To: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org Subject: [onap-tsc] TSC Seat Vanacy I wanted to follow up on the discussion regarding a special election due to Chris taking a new job. One of the first questions asked was, "What does the Charter say?" Neither the Charter or Community Document says anything about a vacancy. In the absence of any specific language, the default should be to honor what language there is. Currently the Community Document says: 4.1.1.2 Size and Structure The TSC shall consist of eighteen (18) seats Nine (9) seats on the TSC are to be reserved for Operators Only one (1) person from any company, or group of related companies (as defined in section 4.4.4.1) may be a member at any given time. As such, my guidance to the TSC is to immediately authorize a special election using the criteria currently defined in the Community Document, plain and simple. There were a several alternatives to a special election which have been suggested. While it is well within the TSC's right to pursue any of these alternatives, all must be thoroughly scrutinized through the lens of fairness, trust, and responsibility to the community. Leaving the seat vacant until the next election cycle It took 6 months to debate and vote on membership criteria, and another full month to run an election. Leaving the seat vacant until the next scheduled election implies that after all that work the TSC doesn't care about being fully functional. This would be a huge hit to the community's trust of the TSC. Delay any decision on an election until the TSC amends the Community Document to address how to handle a vacancy This is marginally better than leaving the seat vacant, because who knows how long amending the Community Document might take. I would encourage the TSC to take up amending the Community Document to cover one or more of the operational and governance gaps that exist, however it is unfair to the ONAP community to hold the recently vacated seat hostage to those discussions. Have Chris appoint his replacement When the TSC was comprised of only appointed individuals doing this would have been fine course of action. In fact, there were a couple instances back in March where this occurred. Now that we have moved from an appointed TSC to an elected TSC, such an appointment by a member is completely inappropriate. Make the next runner up in the August election the new TSC member While true the seat does not belong to Huawei, it would be exceeding unfair to them, especially as the 2nd largest contributor to the Project, to suddenly be out in the cold with absolutely no chance to even compete for a seat they once held. I don't like creating work for myself and a TCS election is indeed a great deal of work. The thought of having to run a new election is mind-numbing but I welcome it gladly because it is absolutely the right thing to do. I recommend a one week nomination period, and a one week voting period. (The prior election was lengthened to two + two specifically to accommodate summer vacations). I am at ONS-Europe this week and out the first week of October on family business. The earliest I can commit to kicking off the process (after revalidating qualified Active Community Members) would be Oct. 11th, putting the close of the election on Oct. 25. Please let me know your thoughts. Best Regards, -kenny Kenny Paul, Technical Program Manager, The Linux Foundation kp...@linuxfoundation.org, 510.766.5945 San Francisco Bay Area, Pacific Time Zone This message and the information contained herein is proprietary and confidential and subject to the Amdocs policy statement, you may review at https://www.amdocs.com/about/email-disclaimer -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#3741): https://lists.onap.org/g/ONAP-TSC/message/3741 Mute This Topic: https://lists.onap.org/mt/26151620/21656 Group Owner: onap-tsc+ow...@lists.onap.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.onap.org/g/ONAP-TSC/leave/2743226/1412191262/xyzzy [arch...@mail-archive.com] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-