Thanks Jason,

Thanks for the comment.  I thought that the proposed text (given the 
principles) covered the case, maybe you see something that I miss:

The proposed amendment indicates "That TSC member may remain a member unless: 
1) the moves places the member in conflict with the TSC composition rules" and 
that the current composition rules state:

  *   Size and structure
     *   The TSC shall consist of  eighteen (18) seats
     *   Nine seats are reserved for operators

Please note operators is defined as a specific set of companies
Meaning that such a move would violate the current composition rules -> hence 
the moving TSC member would be considered to have stood down.

Is there a way to make it clearer (I hesitate to draw out a specific list of 
scenarios in the text as that is when I thought we may miss a case)?

BR,

Steve

From: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org <onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> On Behalf Of Jason Hunt
Sent: Wednesday 17 October 2018 23:08
To: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org
Subject: Re: [onap-tsc] JIRA TSC-1 "Update TSC Chart to address how to hanlde a 
vacancey"

One case that wasn't in Chaker's list, but might trigger some discussion would 
be:

 An elected TSC member representing Operator A takes a job with a Vendor A that 
does not have a representative on the TSC.

As written, the charter proposal says that the TSC member keeps his/her seat 
and Operator A would be without a representative on the TSC (until the next 
election cycle).  However, the table in the top of the document states 
otherwise (Operator A can appoint a new member and the TSC member might keep 
their seat if the TSC numbers are not exceeded).

We need to sync up the charter language with the table, if the table is what we 
intend.


Regards,
Jason Hunt
Distinguished Engineer, IBM

Phone: 314-749-7422
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From:        "Chaker Al Hakim" 
<chaker.al.ha...@huawei.com<mailto:chaker.al.ha...@huawei.com>>
To:        "onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org>" 
<onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org>>
Date:        10/17/2018 03:29 PM
Subject:        Re: [onap-tsc] JIRA TSC-1 "Update TSC Chart to address how to 
hanlde a vacancey"
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Hi Steve,

Thanks for the clarifications

Regards,
Chaker


From: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org> 
[mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Terrill
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 2:59 PM
To: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org>
Subject: Re: [onap-tsc] JIRA TSC-1 "Update TSC Chart to address how to hanlde a 
vacancey"

Hi Chaker,

Discussion is always welcome - I wanted to point out though that I believe that 
the cases you proposed are covered in the proposal, which I will clarify below:
1.       If an elected TSC member from an Operator A changes jobs and moves to 
Operator B that's already represented on the TSC board
a.       Would the 'TSC Member' be forced to resign based on the TSC  rules or 
Operator(s) make the decision?)
b.      Would the TSC run a new election?
c.       Who would be eligible to run?
Steve: I believe this is covered.  This would violate the TSC composition 
rules, hence the moving TSC member would stepdown or be considered as such.
2.       An elected TSC member representing Operator A takes a job with a 
Vendor A that is already represented with an elected TSC member
a.       Would the 'TSC Member' be forced to resign based on the TSC  rules or 
Operator/vendor make the decision?
b.      Would the TSC run a new election?
c.       Who would be eligible to run in the new election?
Steve: I believe this is covered.  This would violate the TSC composition 
rules, hence the moving TSC member would stepdown or be considered as such.
3.       If an elected TSC member from Vendor A takes a job with vendor B which 
had failed to win a TSC seat during the official TSC election (this is an 
interesting case)
a.       Would the 'TSC Member' be forced to resign based on the TSC  rules or 
Operator and/or vendor make the decision?)
b.      Who would be eligible to run in the new election?
c.       Eligibility
Steve: I believe this is covered.  According to this proposal, the TSC member 
is not forced to resign as the TSC composition rules are not violated.

Of course its another thing if there is disagreement for the basis of the 
proposal.

BR,

Steve

From: 
onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org><onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org>>
 On Behalf Of Chaker Al Hakim
Sent: Wednesday 17 October 2018 20:27
To: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org>
Subject: Re: [onap-tsc] JIRA TSC-1 "Update TSC Chart to address how to hanlde a 
vacancey"

Hi all,

I had sent the attached email back in September proposing a few more cases to 
consider so that we don't have to work the same exercise again when/if they do 
occur.
I'd like to include them in the discussion tomorrow and decide as a team on how 
we move forward.

Thanks,
Chaker


From: 
onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org>[mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org]
 On Behalf Of Stephen Terrill
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 4:15 AM
To: onap-tsc@lists.onap.org<mailto:onap-tsc@lists.onap.org>
Subject: [onap-tsc] JIRA TSC-1 "Update TSC Chart to address how to hanlde a 
vacancey"

Hi,

As TSC-1 jira is on the TSC agenda, a proposal has been uploaded.  While this 
and previous versions have been shared with the Task force, there is still 
ongoing discussion however I thought that it fair to share the latest proposal 
with the TSC members before the meeting this week.

It is attatched in the jira:
https://jira.onap.org/browse/TSC-1?src=confmacro

BR,

Steve




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