On Jun 27, 2011, at 8:29 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On 06/27/2011 07:58 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Kay Schenk<kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> On 06/27/2011 05:28 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >>>> >>>> Assuming we're not trying for a "big bang" migration where we move >>>>> everything at once, it seems we have two main approaches: >>>>> >>>>> 1) Assign existing OpenOffice.org DNS to Apache now. For services >>>>> which we have not yet migrated to Apache we redirect back to Oracle's >>>>> server, by IP address. As additional services are migrated to Apache, >>>>> we remove redirects. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Well given the state of the project as it exists today in the Apache >>>> environment, I think this is fraught with MANY problems. What is "up" on >>>> Apache right now is really insignificant compared to what is available >>>> via >>>> OpenOffice.org. I think before doing this, we'd need to make a VERY >>>> comprehensive mapping list of what would be going where. >>>> I don't mean to overburden everyone with "details", but I think a >>>> "migration plan" complete with "areas" and timeframes might be in order. >>>> This would be useful to determine scope as well as creating a reasonable >>>> schedule. >>>> >>>> Someone would spend a LOT of time maintaining the redirect business. >>>> I'm concerned with acccess "blips" given this approach. Timing is >>>> everything. >>>> >>>> Additionally, some people, like me, have edit (committer) rights on parts >>>> of the OpenOffice web server to continue to make changes (if only >>>> informative) and no similar rights on Apache. Right now, I'm not doing >>>> much >>>> except trying to keep some reasonable info about the move updated on the >>>> OpenOffice.org site on some of the primary pages. But...I really have NO >>>> idea what others with commit rights are doing on that server at the >>>> moment. >>>> This would be interesting to find out. >>>> >>> >>> >>> I havent been able to do any commits to the site yet, but I also wonder >>> what >>> is the status of this current site. Is there going to be any SSI? Who >>> choosed that template? >>> >> >> Not sure how to answer this since I don't even know if it HAS a template. >> ???? >> >> Since I know little about kenai, I don't know anything about it handles >> templates, but the site looks pretty much the same as it did before the >> move. >> >> >> How can I go about it to change it and if it's good >> >>> idea to simply change it as please. >>> >> >> The site uses ssh+svn (svn with ssh tunneling) see: >> http://kenai.com/projects/help/pages/SourceControl >> >> You need your own private ssh key uploaded through your OO.o private key. >> >> If you have your own OO.o ID and login, you should be able to see what >> projects you are a member of and what rights you have to them. >> >> >> >>> Sound a bit rookish questions but also wonder what is the direction of >>> that >>> site. >>> >> >> Well...it's my understanding that eventually it will cease to exist, at >> some point yet to be determined. Thus, we need to put whatever effort we can >> into this new Apache endeavor. > > > Sorry Kay, I know the Kenai layout, I was asking about Apache-OOo new site: > http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ > > I think this one is set up here: > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/site/trunk/ > > It seems to have some perl(?) scripts: > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/site/trunk/lib/view.pm?revision=1137122&view=markup > > Not sure if its using a framework or just random perl scripts holding things > somewhat automated. From what I see there are some Templates setup: > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/site/trunk/templates/skeleton.html?revision=1137122&view=markup
That is the template. The css is here: incubator/ooo/site/trunk/content/openofficeorg/css/ooo.css Regards, Dave > On Kenai, it did had the tigris template, which we drag from Collabnet, and > the CSS had some major change to it spreading it across 6 different > stylesheets (before it was only one). And there were of course a template > use on most of the projects. BizDev and Education tried a tableless CSS > which never made it to production. > > >> >> >> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2) Do it in the opposite direction: DNS goes to Oracle's servers and >>>>> they redirect to Apache for services that we've migrated. As services >>>>> are migrated we ask Oracle to add additional requests. When >>>>> everything is migrated then we switch over the DNS. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> This seems like a better idea with less redirection for the time being. >>>> However, this puts control in Oracle's court which may not be desirable. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> #1 seems a lot cleaner to me, and requires less coordination with >>>>> Oracle. We control the DNS, redirects and generally set the pace of >>>>> migration. But are there protocols beyond http/https that we need to >>>>> worry about? For example, any ftp, smtp, nntp, etc. that would >>>>> complicate things? >>>>> >>>>> If we can agree on the general approach I don't see why we couldn't >>>>> start some migration this week. Bugzilla, for example, seems to be a >>>>> straightforward. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Well this particular area seems OK. :) >>>> >>>> Really I will do some work via the wiki this week to augment the list on >>>> the wiki from my perspective on what needs to be done. >>>> >>>> >>>> -Rob >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> MzK >>>> >>>> "He's got that New Orleans thing crawling all over him, that good stuff, >>>> that 'We Are the Champions', to hell with the rest and >>>> I'll just start over kind of attitude." >>>> -- "1 Dead in the Attic", Chris Rose >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> MzK >> >> "He's got that New Orleans thing crawling all over him, that good stuff, >> that 'We Are the Champions', to hell with the rest and >> I'll just start over kind of attitude." >> -- "1 Dead in the Attic", Chris Rose >> > > > > -- > *Alexandro Colorado* > *OpenOffice.org* Español > http://es.openoffice.org
