I am going to maintain my neutrality, but I think there is one thing to keep in 
mind.

Every time a URL changes, you lose people.  Every time you break a (deep) link 
that someone bookmarked, you risk losing someone.  Every time a way that worked 
before in finding service or support or software or anything else changes, you 
lose people.  You also increase the prospect for interlopers to manager their 
SEO and advertising in a manner that interferes with people finding what they 
were really looking for.  How many faux services are already offering 
OpenOffice.org downloads?  I'm afraid to look.

So, disruption disrupts.  It's in the nature of disruption that you don't know 
how life will be on the other side.

This comes down to two questions, it seems to me:

 1. How do we arrange for people to be able to still use what they already know 
to access and use OpenOffice.org resources?

 2. What do we do to have this still provide what they are expecting to find 
(which may be the more difficult question)?

This is about how people are served and about how we demonstrate care for that.

I would suggest that no matter what we call things, an over-riding concern is 
how we provide continuity with all [*.]openoffice.org web locations and how we 
serve the community that relies on them as well as we are able.  Where we are 
not able to provide what is already expected, we demonstrate our care for those 
who arrive there and assist them as well as we can manage.

If we don't accomplish that, protecting the brand becomes irrelevant.  No 
matter what, people ultimately respond to what we do, not what we say, not what 
we claim.  Maintaining goodwill requires good deeds.  Brands are perishable.  
Customer loyalty has to be earned every day.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] 
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 17:57
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

+1 

That works for me, conceptually.  I don't have any history with OpenOffice.org, 
the project, however, so I intend to stay neutral on how this gets thrashed out.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Marcum [mailto:cmar...@apache.org] 
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 16:54
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

It seems to me that a lot of the problem arises in keeping the 
development project and the product brand names exactly the same.

If there are indeed going to to be 2 websites, OpenOffice.org which is 
where end users go to get the product, help, etc. and the 
<tbd>.apache.org where the development project resides.

I understand the need to maintain the product brand.

+1 to keep OpenOffice.org the product (at least near term).

I think the Apache brand strenthens the project development and that's 
one reason I'm here.

+1 for Apache OpenOffice the project.

Looking at the people listing, it's possible not all members are here 
because of OpenOffice.org the product, but common development of the 
code base.

Best regards,
Carl

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