I think Rob's appraisal establishes pretty clearly that considerable adaptation 
to individual cases must apply.  There is material that is clearly more 
technical, although I am not so clear that it has to be considered release 
content.  There is material that, whatever its technical nature, appears not to 
be licensed under the Oracle grant, and other material that might be.  The 
separations might not be in the same places.  

I don't think there is any wholesale action that can be applied to subsuming 
OpenOffice.org under Apache.

 - Dennis

MORE ANALYSIS

As well as I can tell, there is a Copyright notice on that page, but no license:
<http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Performance>.

The notice is by the link to this page: 
<http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Wiki:Copyrights>.

So, if this is not subject to the Oracle license grant, there's not a lot to be 
done about this.

This related page is even more intriguing:
<http://performance.openoffice.org/>.

There, these terms of use are linked, and the grants in section 4 kick in:
<http://openoffice.org/terms_of_use>.

So some of this might be covered by the Oracle license grant, and some of it 
might not be.  I think that, on an individual-case basis, that determination 
governs our ability to (1) host on the OpenOffice.org site only versus (2) 
moving to an Apache.org site and to make derivatives that are licensed 
differently (with appropriate attribution, etc., of course) without further 
permission being obtained.





-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Weir [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 14:47
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Access to wiki

On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Kazunari Hirano <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Rob,
>
> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Rob Weir <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Let's look at a few examples on the wiki:
>>
>> Page on performance tuning initiatives in OOo:
>
> Do you mean "http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Performance";?
>

Yes, thanks.

>> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Main_Page
>>
>> The editors of this page are almost entirely Sun and RedFlag
>> employees.  It directly concerns plans and approaches to modifying the
>> code.  This isn't really doc at all.  But I don't think it is
>> "community" either.  Performance tuning is a core development
>> function.  In every other Apache project information like this would
>> be part of the core project.apache.org website, where developers would
>> most likely look for it.
>
> Thanks,
> khirano
> --
> Kazunari Hirano
> http://openoffice.exblog.jp/
> Tohoku Japan needs your help.
>

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