On 08/13/2011 07:23 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Kay Schenk<[email protected]> wrote:
On 08/13/2011 05:55 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
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My understanding is that there were two issues raised by regulators:
1) Google stores IP addresses of visitors. It does not make the IP
addresses available to users of Google Analytics, but stores it
themselves. This has been interpreted by one regulator as violating a
ban on storing personally identifying information beyond the duration
of a session. The interpretation is that an IP address is personally
identifying information.
The odd thing here is that it appears to be ignoring the state of the
art, which is that other information, excluding IP address, is
actually more accurate in tracking users, e.g., "fingerprinting" them
via their browser settings, fonts, etc. See:
https://panopticlick.eff.org/ In other words, it is the correlation
of basic common facts that makes the user identifiable. It doesn't
require a single unique piece of data.
2) Google has an opt-out browser plugin, but it is not available for
Opera or Safari.
Storing the data ourselves is a double-edged sword. If we store it,
then we are responsible for any problems with that data.
Yes. And configuring Piwik the way described there it does not store
personally identifiable data.
If we think Piwik addresses the IP address and the opt-out issues,
then that sounds like a good solution. If we think Piwik is well
maintained, etc. I have no objections to Piwik.
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OK, a couple of short comments on this -- esp Google analytics.
G. analytics requires code inserted into pages you want to track. Not a
biggie since we have templates, but...if the analytics server is down
(rarely but it DOES happen), this prevents page loading. Analytics is great
but really maybe overkill for just simplistic info like browser
identification. I have no knowledge of Piwik.
That was first generation. Google Analytics now has an asynchronous
option, which allows the page to render while the tracking code does
its stuff in the background. No idea if Piwik allows that as well.
oops! OK -- my bad. Haven't kept up with this in a while.
Still I can't help but think that Analytics, with its individual
registration (i.e. by a designated individual) might be more of an
administrative headache than we really need for simple tracking stats.
It's a great service but would it serve our administrative setup needs?
and 2) I'm surprised Apache doesn't have some internal log analysis program
--like Awstats -- installed for the whole domain. It's really quite simple
to deal with but, yes, does require some caretaking.
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