On 9/6/2011 13:43, Matt Richards wrote:
Well, I thought Terry has resigned from the project according to another
thread, leaving the wiki migration at a bit of a stand still. Figured I
could step in and pick up where he left off on this. Am I able to, as a
non-contributor reach out to Apache Infra on this (from what I read it seems
the infra ML are for existing contributors only)? Not sure who all is
involved at this point.
As Pedro commented, you don't need a newbie to help with the conversion.
But in the long run, I volunteer to learn whatever is needed to support
the MW system. All I have to offer is that I am a sysop on the live
wiki, and a lot of specifically useless experience as a systems
programmer on CDC 6000. I can learn PHP, if there is something to do
with it.
I also know the magic words for Linux: "man whatever" :-D --/tj/
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Dave Fisher<dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
On Sep 6, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
My understanding that it really is a test build and it has *not* been
maintained in synchronization with the OpenOffice.org operating version. So
if that system started to be used as a production instance separate from
OpenOffice.org, it would be a fork and there would be some issues with that.
The plan was to put the existing wiki into read only and then do a final
export. That export would be used to build the final ooo-wiki. The next step
is to change the DNS. Once DNS is complete branding changes will be made.
Also, I don't believe that would be an acceptable arrangement for Apache
Infrastructure, for important operational reasons. Someone from there can
explain the rules for having a MediaWiki server being sustained.
Terry has said he will finish the work. It is possible that Drew can do it.
I know that Terry was documenting everything for Infrastructure.
Perhaps you should ask infra what they will require given the events of the
last days.
I also wonder what moderation and administrative situation exists on the
Wiki and if there is any overlap beyond Terry and Drew between these two
groups.
Regards,
Dave
PS. A lot of us are older, let's have some consideration for other's health
and stress levels.
I totally understand real life/health needs to come before any of these
types of projects. No problem.
- Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Richards [mailto:mricha...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 08:32
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [DISCUSS][wiki] Migration (was Re: Who Wants to build
OpenOffice?)
As far as point 2, I thought Terry had completed the all of the migration
work and all that was left was to create a final export and cut over the
DNS
entries? In my mind, if there is already a lot of content on the MW and
the
Apache Foundation allows us to continue to use it, why not?
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Rob Weir<robw...@apache.org> wrote:
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Pedro F. Giffuni<giffu...@tutopia.com
wrote:
Hmm ...
It looks like I missed where the decision to use MediiaWiki and
deprecate confluence
was taken. I guess it was arranged with infra as long as MW is up to
date
and
the extensions are documented.
I am not complaining though: it sounds like lazy consensus in action
plus
we can
always change mind later on and try the conversion script.
Do you have a counter-argument? I think the factors are at play were:
1) We have a huge amount of content already in MediaWiki from the
legacy project. Although it might be converted to Confluence, the
effort would be large.
on the other hand
2) MediaWiki was not supported by Apache Infrastructure and getting it
supported and migrated would require a lot of admin work
So far, it looks like the admin effort has made more progress than the
translation effort. Maybe not a final decision, but that is how it
looks to me today.
-Rob
Pedro.
--
--Matt
