On 09/12/2011 01:42 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
No problem Kay,

I think it was worthwhile to confirm bringing the pages into Apache
SVN and going through the Apache publishing flow.

I am concerned about monkeying with the pages and (separately)
getting into collisions about where this will all end up (i.e., is
this the precise publishing flow and when does it provide content for
OpenOffice.org).

I understand this point completely -- this is why there is NO intention (at least on my part) to link them anywhere until all the DNS and location issues get resolved. Again, I was really just trying to ascertain rendering functionality for some of these NL sites.



- Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Kay Schenk
[mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 13:18
To: [email protected] Subject: Re: PLEASE STOP " RE: svn
commit: r795631 - in /websites/production/openofficeorg:



On 09/12/2011 09:51 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:
You are the perfect being the enemy of the good.

Thanks for -1 all of Kay and my work. You've done this before.
I've said it is not perfect and that I am working on it. We
discussed the terms etc last week. I said what I would do. I didn't
do it this last weekend. I had no real energy for AOOo.

ah yes...I am indeed the perputrator of all this commotion. For some
odd reason, I thought we had the go-ahead to start doing soe web
page migrations, and I sat down (a while) yesterday scripting soem of
this out.

Heh...I honestly wanted to see how some of the NL pages you come
over, and since these are not explicity linked in, well, whre's the
harm.

I ahd planend on doing a LOT more publishing this week, but, of
course, I will stop until a TRUE geen light appears.

My apologigies to cause offense.


If you want to negotiate a test Apache CMS location and URL with
Apache Infrastructure go ahead.

No more AOOo today. I am a volunteer and it is not pleasant to go
through these little explosions all the time.

Regards, Dave

On Sep 12, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

I think it is inappropriate to make web visible duplicate and
different pages that are presently available via the
OpenOffice.org.  There is much more to determine before the
migration of the OpenOffice.org content and services is staged.
There is no worked-out consensus on how that will progress
through integration so that user-facing OpenOffice.org and
project facing openoffice.apache.org are separated appropriately,
if at all.

More important to me is that fact that those pages don't
"belong" to us.

I repeat my concern that it is *very* inappropriate to inject
unapproved Apache Terms of Use and, worse, apply Apache
Copyright notices in ways that have not been reviewed by legal
FIRST.  This kind of action is not appropriate for Commit then
Review, not even unilateral lazy consensus, since it is a concern
of the Foundation, not merely the Apache OOo Podling.

If there is to be a test site to establish that there is a
working migration approach for static materials, it needs to be
set up that way.  There is no need to modify content on such a
site beyond what is technically required to demonstrate workable
migration.

I am very concerned that material is being combined under
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/, such as the material
at http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg WACK de/,
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg WACK ar/,
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg WACK lt/, and so on.

I also believe that demonstration of capture should not be
comingled with modifications. I urge that any modifications that
cannot be done on OpenOffice.org where it is now hosted be
deferred beyond when the OpenOffice.org domain and the hosted
pages are all in Apache custody.  Modifications at OpenOffice.org
itself seem best limited to those minimum adjustments necessary
because of separated services (such as migration of Bugzilla
which has left broken material behind on OpenOffice.org).

- Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011
05:40 To: [email protected] Subject: svn commit:
r795631 - in /websites/production/openofficeorg: ./
content/openofficeorg/aa/ content/openofficeorg/af/
content/openofficeorg/am/ content/openofficeorg/ar/
content/openofficeorg/docs/governance/ content/openofficeorg/dz/
content/openofficeo...

Author: marcus Date: Mon Sep 12 12:40:18 2011 New Revision:
795631

Log: Publishing merge to openofficeorg site by marcus

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--- svn:mergeinfo (original)
+++ svn:mergeinfo Mon Sep 12 12:40:18 2011 @@ -1 +1 @@
-/websites/staging/openofficeorg/trunk:791146-795462
+/websites/staging/openofficeorg/trunk:791146-795630

Modified:
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==============================================================================
---
websites/production/openofficeorg/content/openofficeorg/docs/governance/lazyConsensus.html


(original) +++
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Mon Sep 12 12:40:18 2011 @@ -107,7 +107,10 @@ lazy consensus model.
In these circumsta operation.</p>  <p>What this means is that
they make a proposal and state that they will start implementing
it in 72 hours unless someone objects. 72 hours is chosen because
-it accounts for different timezones and non-apache
commitments.</p> +it accounts for different timezones and
non-apache commitments. If the 72 hours are +touching a weekend
it would be wise to extend the timeframe a bit. This will ensure
+that people can participate in the proposal even when they were
offline over the +weekend.</p> <p>In this approach the original
proposal is not insisting that there is a discussion around their
proposal, nor are they requesting that the community explicitly
supports their actions. However, this differs from assuming lazy
consensus





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