On 19 October 2011 10:51, Ross Gardler <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 19 October 2011 10:21, Ian Lynch <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 19 October 2011 09:35, Ross Gardler <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> On 19 October 2011 09:20, Ian Lynch <[email protected]> wrote: > > ... > > > If [anyone] called themselves the Champions of Open Desktop > > Productivity Tools or something, raised money and gave some of it to LibO > > and some to pay an OOo developer why would there be a problem? > > If Apache Trademarks are respected then anyone can do whatever they like. > > If Apache marks are used there needs to be formal agreement with the > ASF about that use (this would be obtained via the trademarks > committee with recommendations from the AOOo PPMC) > > > Paying to put on a conference could be done by ASF but it could be done > by a > > third party with or without ASF cooperation. (Better with, but just to > > illustrate that it would be technically possible to run a conference > > separately as long as no trademarks were infringed). > > Careful, the ASF does not pay to put conferences on. I said could :-) if it chooses not to use money in that way it is up to the members to decide. > We do have money > and volunteers to help people put events on. So that is really the case of a third party cooperating. That is a sensible default. Probably off topic for > this thread but I wanted to nip a potential misunderstanding in the > bud. > I'm just trying to illustrate what the constraints are and that actually there are relatively few formal ones. The main constraint is simply deciding a method and priorities. > > So there is a massive range of flexibility even now within the system as > it > > exists. > > Yes, it works pretty well for nearly 200 projects, many of which have > a higher economic value than AOOo, many of which have a much lower > value. The question in my mind is whether AOOo feel it is not suitable > simply because it is different, or is there genuine need for the kind > of model AOOo had in the past. > > > If we knew specifically what problems TOO had we might be able to > > help. Of course the problem they have might be in defining the problem > ;-) > > > > Yes. We need TOO to participate in this discussion. As well as the > many other organisations that have an interest in this area. So I have an interest, but I can't see a problem with things the way they are. Nothing seems to prevent me from doing what I would want to be doing anyway. If someone wants to set up a fund for donating directly to support AOO I don't really see why that would be a problem either. Even if ASF didn't approve, as long as no trademarks are infringed what could ASF do about it? -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales.
