Am 19.10.2011 17:24, schrieb Ross Gardler:
On 19 October 2011 16:10, Martin Hollmichel
<[email protected]>  wrote:
Hi,

I think the question we should be asking, in addition, is: what makes
us think that the model that OOo used historically might not work even
better?
+1

I think what matters is not just "oh it works fine" but how do we maximise
benefits.


Indeed, invest into mechanism to boost up the ecosystem to help partners do
their business better and thus come to faster solutions for end users and
customers is a central issue, we should and want to work on,
I agree with the sentiment but not with the words.

The ASF does not have partners, it produces software for the public
good. Of course, the people you refer to as partners are part of the
public. So the distinction may be not be important.

However, the ASF cannot, as a charity, do anything that benefits any
one organisation/individual more than any other.

That being said. I do agree with the sentiment of where this thread is going.

So what do you want the AOOo project to do to build this ecosystem?
From my old experience I would not recommend to do so, but this might be an issue which could be discussed.

When I speak of partners, I mean all the people and companies doing business with OpenOffice.org, I think these a thousands around the world. They are doing good jobs in migrating others to OOo, doing 1st and 2nd level support, trainings, etc. what they missed and still missing is to buy "last" level support which never has offered by the big ones (Sun, IBM, etc) on a broad basis. I agree that this is nothing the ASF wants to provide (and I do not recommend). But I think this might attractive to do this on an open and non-profit basis, but of course you need for this a bunch of experienced and full time developers.

Ross
Martin

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