On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: >> > >> >> A quick summary of where we are, in case you haven't been following >> >> the previous threads. >> >> >> >> Information on the top 100 legacy mailing lists is on the wiki [1]. >> >> A draft note that will be sent to these lists is an another page [2]. >> >> >> >> If you note in that first page, the "Migration Owner" column is blank. >> >> So either I need to quickly learn French, Dutch and Japanese, or I >> >> need some help here. >> >> >> >> Volunteers would translate the note, send it to the relevant NL lists, >> >> and be available on those lists to answer any migration-related >> >> questions. Ideally you would already be a participant on the lists >> >> and familiar to that community. >> >> >> >> As for staging, I'd recommend that we do not do this all at once. >> >> Migrating 100 lists at once would be very messy. But we can easily >> >> break this down into related groups of lists and do the migration over >> >> a few weeks. One possible staging would be: >> >> >> >> 1) All the lists that will be merged into the new ooo-marketing list. >> >> This will help jump start that lists important work, and bring >> >> community members into the discussion who might not have been >> >> interested in the other topics we've been discussing on ooo-dev. >> >> >> >> 2) All of the lists that will be merged into ooo-dev >> >> >> >> 3) All of the lists that will be merged into ooo-users >> >> >> >> 4) NL lists (which could be done in parallel with the above. However, >> >> they will require some discussion and admin work to create new >> >> ooo-lang lists,) >> >> >> >> The thought behind this staging is that we "work out the kinks" with >> >> the more technical and (hopefully) more forgiving project lists, >> >> before moving on to the user and NL lists. We can adjust the >> >> instructions and messaging based on what we learn from the initial >> >> migrations. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> -Rob >> >> >> >> >> > Have the "new" NL lists been setup already? I may have missed that and I >> > haven't look at any jira tix. >> > >> >> No NL lists yet, except for Japanese. We need moderator volunteers >> before we can request them. >> >> Process for getting a new mailing list created is here: >> >> http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#new-mailing-list >> >> Probably makes sense to start with the largest NL communities first? >> >> > >> >> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Mailing+lists >> >> [2] >> >> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Email+Migration+Post >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > MzK >> > >> > "This is no social crisis >> > Just another tricky day for you." >> > -- "Tricky Day", the Who >> > >> > > OK. In terms of process, it's kind of a Catch-22 with the NL lists I guess. > We can't have them without moderators, and it's unlikely we'll get > (volunteer) moderators until we have them <sigh>. What to do... > > The ones in the first block on: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Mailing+lists > > through website.dev should be good for the initial message you've got. And, > I'm sure they're all English-speaking. > > Where are you with any of this? Do you need some of us to do subscriptions > and get started? Maybe we could assign blocks from the first part of the > page above? I'm happy to help. I don't have a lot of time on a daily basis, > but could probably do at least 10 over the next few days. I would be happy > to deal with sc.dev thru website.dev. > > I'll start on subscriptions to these pronto. IT might be a good idea if we > decided to do the messaging on the same day though. Thoughts. > > > > > I took ownership of the ones I'm working on. I hope to get notifications sent tomorrow to most, or by Sunday pm at the latest. > -- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > MzK > > "This is no social crisis > Just another tricky day for you." > -- "Tricky Day", the Who > > -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MzK "This is no social crisis Just another tricky day for you." -- "Tricky Day", the Who