Hi Hannu,
Hannu Puhakka schrieb:
Hi OpenOffice developers
I joined this list a day ago.
You are welcome.
I am not familiar with your groups and not
sure if I am on the right list at all. Maybe someone can comment.
This list is for developing Apache OpenOffice itself, for generating
help content in form of websites and tutorials, for discussions about
infrastructure, and building a community in general.
See http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html for an
overview of the mailing lists.
I am using oof OOO330m20 (Build: 9567). I have heard rumors that there
are several OpenOffice projects - no idea what they might be and what to
use - that my version is "created by Oracle".
Yes, one of them is this Apache OpenOffice, which is incubation and will
become a full Apache project hopefully soon. Another project with the
same code basis is LibreOffice. Common aim is to provide an office suite
for the Open Document Format (ODF). Searching with this keywords you
will find a lot of informations, from several point of view.
I am running a small software company in Finland and used normally
MsOffice for presentations, sheets and documents. Because of HW crash I
now started to manage by OpenOffice. Then I have got some problems and
ideas to improve OpenOffice. I suppose I myself do not have resources
for programming OpenOffice.
Programming is not the only way to contribute. Very important are
translations and user support too.
Where should I send my comments?
You should start on a user maling list or forum. Often the problem is
not, that a feature doesn't exist but that the way to use it is
different from Microsoft Office.
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html#users-mailing-list
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/
Where is the database to check if my comments have already been handled?
Enhancement requests are collected in Bugzilla although Bugzilla is
mainly a tool for bug reports.
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/
What version I should use to be useful with my comments?
You should test the most actual version, currently found on
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots
But you should not use this version in productive content.
How should I title my comments?
As informative as possible. In mailing list tagging might be useful, on
forum you have categories.
Some of my comments:
1) bug: / Impress: I insert a new slide. I click a text element and
change the text size from default 32 to 22 (rigth click on the frame and
choose Character size 22). If I move the mouse on the first text row to
start writing, but do not write even a letter and THEN I select the
frame, font size will be changed again 32 although the character size
shows 22. I have to change the size to maybe 15 and back to 22 to be
able to continue.
I'm not very familiar with Impress. But as a general rule, you have to
distinguish between directly formatting an object or using styles, and
you have to look carefully which object you are formatting.
2)improvement / Impress /Writer: Changing of picture size by mouse is
very annoying. If you have inserted a picture from file into your
presentation or document, you in 96 % of the cases need to modify the
size - smaller or bigger. And 99% of those cases you expect that the
picture should keep the original shape - it meens to "Keep ratio"!!!
But now in Open Office when you resize the image, it never keeps the
ratio - even if the "Keep ratio" checkbox is checked. I suppose this
feature has been five years. If I do not work properly, still the
feature should be changed because nobody cannot understand. See the
attachments "keep_ratio.jpg","resize.jpg".
That is a very common misunderstanding of "keep ratio". "keep ratio" is
a checkbox that helps entering values in that dialog, so that you need
not to calculate the width by yourself when you alter the height, but it
is automatically calculated. It is not a property of the picture.
To drag with keeping ratio hold down the Shift key while dragging.
You see, this is a typical kind of suggestion you should discuss in a
user mailing list or forum before entering it in Bugzilla.
3) bug: / Impress: "Text" area. Many times when I try to insert a new
line on my list pressing "Enter", the application do not add a new line,
instead tries to continue writing the same line and the letters appear
at the same character at the end of the line. I can fix it by selection
another text area and after that coming back. The problems appears many
times a day, not for every text area. See the attachment
"open_office_text_area.jpg".
There is no attachment and it is no good idea to sent an attachment to
the mailing list. It will be distributed to hundreds subscribers. Some
of them have no flat rate or have small bandwidth. Provide a download
link for pictures instead.
That kind would be a candidate for a bug report. But please before
submitting such bug report discuss in user mailing list or forum,
whether it is really a bug and not only an user error and search
Bugzilla whether the problem is already reported.
4) development proposal: Every open office program should have on the
Help menu two selections: "Send a bug report", "Send a development
proposal" which should order a link where you could send your comments
with automatic information of the version you used.
For such discussions this mailing list might be correct. But to keep a
high volume mailing list working it is needed, that threads cover only
one subject. So a new thread with only that topic would be better.
Kind regards
Regina
