Hi. 2012/5/18 Paulo de Souza Lima <paulo.s.l...@varekai.org>
> 2012/5/18 Jürgen Schmidt <jogischm...@googlemail.com> > > > On 5/18/12 10:32 AM, Kevin Grignon wrote: > > > >> Erik, > >> > >> Good stuff. Will do. > >> > > > > do we really need such a separate page for UX community members? I don't > > think so and I personally think it goes in the wrong direction. > > > > There's nothing to loose, in my view. But I wouldn't call UX a "community". > I would call it a "team". > > True. :) > > > I am personally interested in many different areas of the project and > > don't want to put my name on X different pages. My contribution in the > > different areas will be also different and will change from time to time. > > > > If you are interested in many areas (just like me) you are free to decide > if you will place your name in all of them, or none. I don't see a problem > with that. But if I am deeply involved with some project, I would like to > place my name on it, for sure. Also, it's important from the user's point > of view, to know who are the contacts for the issues they have. And a new > contributor who wishes to have a larger involvement with the UX activities > (and others too) should be able to identify who else is involved. > > > > > > Such a page doesn't really reflect who is doing the work and is > > potentially misleading. > > > > Again, I don't think so. Indeed, it doesn't reflect who is doing the job, > but it gives a clue. It would be worst if users have no clue about that. > And Mediawiki has features that can give stronger clues. It's matter of > creating some sort of workflow. If there's a workflow, anyone can drive his > task, without the need of a "coordinator". I could give you an example we > done in LibO, but I preffer to show you our own example in AOO: Me and Raul > are about to finish a workflow for PT-BR document translations page which > is working very fine in LibO and we will make it work here too. When > finished, anyone will be able to choose a document, translate it, submit it > for revise, revise translation, and all the work of every contributor will > be recorded. > > This could be automated in certain level if we had a better wiki as I have > asked for some days ago. > > > > > > We have already a general project page with project members that doesn't > > reflect the current situation in the project. > > > > I agree to this point, but I think a general list "too general" for the > average people. We should think about giving fast answers to AOO users, > instead making them navigate through uncountable pages to find what they > want. Do you have any idea of how difficult is for people to fill an issue > in bugzilla, for example? Findind documentation either. And it's worst for > those who can't read/write in English. > > > > > > In general such pages are useless from my point of view and get outdated > > very fast. > > > > My personal/professional experience points to another direction. If UX has > enthusiastic volunteers who take the task to themselves, they will take > care of their workspace. And I think there are very enthusiastic people at > this moment. And they wish to do that, but it will be useless if UX > couldn't count on devs to hear what they have to say, because UX should be > the channel between users and devs. The enthusiasm can go down very > quickly. > > > > > > Just my 2 ct > > > > > Mine too. > > +1 Albino