On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> wrote: > @Dave, > > I see no reason to fuss over the PPMC? at this point. > > With the preparation for graduation, the PPMC will be reviewed and an > appropriate PMC constituted. > > I think any concern about dangling PPMC? and absent PPMC members can be > resolved at that point. >
Right... but. As a TLP this scenario still repeats itself - those who are invited to be committers and/org PMC members, and in some cases they don't complete the necessary paper work to get on board. So even as a TLP we should probably have an understanding of what we do in that situation, how long we wait, etc. Of course, we don't need to decide this today. -Rob > - Dennis > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 05:54 > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: 2012-06-05 Status: PPMC and Committer Roster > > > On Jun 6, 2012, at 12:25 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > >> @Dave, >> >> The people in Pending=PPMC? state are those eligible who have not >> established themselves as PPMC members. Some are initial committers (all of >> whom are eligible) and some are those that offered PPMC membership to along >> with their invitation to be committers. > > 17 is a large number. > > At this point if an Initial Committer has yet to join the PPMC we should > conclude that they are not interested. I don't think that these should remain > open questions. If individuals have become committers, but N months later > they have not joined the PPMC then we need to assume that they are not > interested. I'm not sure what a reasonable N should be, but I think that > there has to be a time limit that is on the scale of months or weeks and not > a whole year. > >> >> Those committers who have left the PPMC, who declined to be on the PPMC, or >> who were not eligible to be on the PPMC do not have Pending=PPMC? > > Good. > >> >> Members of the PPMC can determine the specific cases by examining the roster >> spreadsheet in the PPMC-private SVN subtree. (Commit messages of updates >> there appear on the ooo-private list.) > > Sure, and you are doing a wonderful job! > > Regards, > Dave > >> >> - Dennis >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] >> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 21:42 >> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Re: 2012-06-05 Status: PPMC and Committer Roster >> >> Hi Dennis, >> >> Thanks for this. I have some questions. >> >> How long are people left in the PPMC? state? To me that ought to expire like >> was done for Initial Committers. Are you including those who were only >> offered Committer status? >> >> Regards, >> Dave >> >> On Jun 5, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: >> >>> As of the end of day, 2012-06-05, the Apache OpenOffice podling has >>> 95 committers, with 75 on the PPMC. >>> >>> Since the previous, 2012-02-01 report, there is an increase of >>> 10 committers and 8 PPMC members. >>> >>> There are two invitations outstanding and the establishment of two >>> other committers is in progress. >>> >>> - Dennis >>> >>> for the Apache OpenOffice PPMC >>> >>> CURRENT PPMC AND COMMITTER STATUS >>> >>> Who's on Board: Tally of Current Committers and PPMC >>> >>> 1 champion >>> 5 mentor >>> 1 mentor/committer (player coach?) >>> 75 PPMC (all currently committers and not counted below) >>> 19 committer (includes any in PPMC? status below) >>> 6 other (ASF Member observers, etc.) >>> 107 TOTAL = pending 'PPMC?' + 'complete' + 'authz' below >>> >>> Pending Actions - what the PPMC is working on getting flat >>> >>> 0 invite (committer/PPMC invitations pending) >>> 2 accepted? (waiting for acceptance and next steps) >>> 0 iCLA? (waiting for iCLA) >>> 0 choose ID (pending invitation to choose ID) >>> 0 ID chosen? (waiting for choice of ID) >>> 2 ID pending (ID and account creation pending) >>> 3 authz (awaiting completion of ooo authorization) >>> 17 PPMC? (waiting for follow-up joining of PPMC) >>> 87 complete (nothing further required) >>> 30 other (some special completion cases, declined, etc.) >>> 141 TOTAL >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 08:39 >>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org >>> Subject: 2012-02-01 PPMC Status: End of Initial Committer Establishment >>> >>> As of the end of day, 2012-01-31, the Apache OpenOffice podling has 85 >>> committers, with 67 on the PPMC. >>> >>> Since the previous, 2011-11-17, report there is an increase of 4 committers >>> and 9 PPMC members. >>> >>> There are no outstanding iCLAs for initial committers and there are no >>> remaining eligible initial committers who have not established themselves. >>> >>> >>> [ ... ] >> >
