Just a caveat...There was an issue with the now-attic-ed project Bluesky, which, as I understand it, was operated with teacher committers and student contributors. The whole IP/licensing issue looked ugly toward the end because none of the students had signed ICLAs and hadn't contributed the code directly with license acknowledgement checkboxes selected.
GSoC is a volunteer thing. Schoolwork typically isn't. A school isn't an employer of students, and therefore I assume can't do a CCLA that would cover students. Can students be compelled through schoolwork assignments to do work that would then be treated as "contributions"? Or would this be like an internship or a dedicated class, such that signing up for it at all is contingent on signing an ICLA? Don On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com> wrote: > My apologies, I sent this to the wrong list (damned autocomplete) > please ignore (or pick it up on d...@community.apache.org if you are > interested) > > On 25 June 2012 13:15, Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com> wrote: >> Some may recall that I kept promising the arrival of students from an >> EU Commission project on a GSoC style pilot in formal education. This >> was a very long way from successful but there was zero impact on our >> projects since we asked PMCs to mark GSoC level projects as "mentor". >> This enabled us to provide a list of suitable projects for the >> students without PMCs needing to do additional work. >> >> I've now been approached by another EU Commission project proposal >> team that wants to do something similar, but this time with students >> doing the work as part of their assessed coursework (i.e. they have a >> strong motivation for doing the work). Another, big difference this >> time is that one of the partner organisations has ASF committers (2 >> of) and there are three open source savvy commercial organisations on >> the bid (DISCLOSURE: one of them is my little consultancy company). >> >> Given the way these proposals get written, there is a very tight >> deadline on this (2 days). I got a first draft of the proposal this >> weekend and I am now satisfied that what is being asked of associate >> partners is acceptable (i.e we won't be responsible for students >> education). However, there isn't enough time for a proper discuss then >> vote process. I'm therefore running these in parallel. >> >> If anyone has *any* serious concerns about rushing like this please >> vote -1 and I'll go back to plan B which is simply to highlight my >> engagement with the ASF as an individual. Note that I will not be >> voting given the obvious conflict of interest. However, if the funding >> is approved I will be taking full responsibility for all aspects of >> administration within the ASF (and other associate partners). Note I >> have also notified board@ and will cancel the vote if the board raises >> a concern. >> >> In terms of deliverables from the project think of GSoC where the >> students get credits towards their degree rather than cash (Semester >> of Code rather than Summer of Code). If successful the project will >> provide a "manual" for other universities wishing to offer such real >> world experience to their students. >> >> Our PMCs will choose to offer mentors based on the quality of student >> applications - if there are no students that look interesting we have >> no further commitments. >> >> Here is the text of the letter of intent I propose to sign if the >> ComDev PMC approves: >> >> ---- start copied text --- >> >> The Apache Software Foundation (ASF) provides support for the Apache >> community of open-source software projects. That community provide >> software products for the public good. The ASF is made up of over 100 >> top level projects that cover a wide range of technologies. Chances >> are that if anyone is looking for a rewarding experience in Open >> Source, you are going to find it here. >> >> The Apache projects are defined by collaborative consensus based >> processes, an open, pragmatic software license and a desire to create >> high quality software that leads the way in its field. We are >> recognized as one of the most influential software organisations of >> our time and are often seen as the "gold standard" of open source >> software development. >> >> We have participated in the Google Summer of Code programme since its >> inception and continue to mentor around 40 students per year. We have >> had great success with this programme with some of our earliest >> students still working with us. >> >> The OSKA project has the potential to extend the benefits of the >> Google Summer of Code programme into formal education whilst still >> allowing our communities to work alongside students in real world open >> source projects. As a voluntary organisation we cannot guarantee that >> students will succeed, but we can provide an environment in which any >> sufficiently able >> student will find our projects supportive and educational. We look >> forward to extending our Google Summer of Code efforts to support the >> OSKA trial. >> >> -- >> Ross Gardler (@rgardler) >> Programme Leader (Open Development) >> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com > > > > -- > Ross Gardler (@rgardler) > Programme Leader (Open Development) > OpenDirective http://opendirective.com
