On Jul 16, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Dennis, >> >> On Jul 16, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: >> >>> I suggest that one not be so careless about asserting ASF copyright on >> third party materials. >>> >>> Why does this meme persist? >>> >>> Please consult Legal before doing anything so outrageous. >> >> You cc'd legal-discuss while cutting out much of this whole email >> completely destroying all context. (Please cc: ooo-dev since not all of us >> are going to subscribe to the list to participate in this discussion.) >> >> Context: >> >> IANAL, but I believe that the whole webpage with the project's own banner, >> footer and navigation can be copyright The ASF whether or not all content >> in between those elements may have another copyright or none. >> >> Often we don't know the copyright because Sun and Oracle did not keep >> these records together - there is a list of copyright holders but no way of >> knowing if their material is still in the site or not. >> >> We believe that we have implied consent to use all the material from >> Oracle that is on www.openoffice.org and related domains. >> >> Dennis thinks it is outrageous to have an ASF copyright on these combined >> web pages, what does legal-discuss think? >> >> If this should be or already is a LEGAL JIRA issue then I am fine >> discussing it there. >> >> Regards, >> Dave >> > > Dave -- > > This was discussed with legal in the past -- please see > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-104
Well, hmmmmmmmm - not really conclusive - and not closed. I think that there are areas in www.openoffice.org that we certainly can assert copyright now - eg. download, main page, api, ... We will have to see if anything happens more on legal-discuss. I rather object to Dennis's cross posting this thread between legal-discuss and ooo-dev. It is an example of "spreading the flow". Look more carefully at what Lawrence Rosen wrote on the JIRA issue. Egads, Dave > > >> >>> >>> - Dennis >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] >>> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 11:01 >>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org >>> Subject: Re: Terms of Service on Forums >>> >>> >>> On Jul 16, 2012, at 10:45 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> >>> [ ... ] >>> >>>> I still think that we should just post an ASF copyright notice, and >>>> link to privacy and trademark policies. >>> >>> Agreed. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Dave >>> >>> [ ... ] >>> >> >> > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > MzK > > "I would rather have a donkey that takes me there > than a horse that will not fare." > -- Portuguese proverb
